THE PLATFORM (El hoyo): Is It Deep or Dumb?

19 juin 2020
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The Platform became one of those surprise hits on Netflix with its metaphor about prison, capitalism, and the like. But is there actual depth within this 333-story tower of hell? And what's the deal with Don Quixote? Let's find out in this Wisecrack Edition on The Platform: Is It Deep or Dumb?

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Commentaires
  • Actually the 333 represents the rules of 3s 3 days without water 3 weeks without food 3 minutes without oxygen

    ChrisoughtChrisoughtIl y a 2 jours
  • I don't know why but if I was ever at that prison I would immediately get Acrophobia (Fear of heights). Who wouldn't even get Acrophobia. Literally a floors with holes.

    Inspirational JamInspirational JamIl y a 5 jours
  • Get to the point. Start at 1:46

    biscuitninjabiscuitninjaIl y a 6 jours
  • It's an amazing movie! Best movie on Netflix in my opinion

    Robert PrenticeRobert PrenticeIl y a 7 jours
  • You can also see the similarities with communist revolution. Because every month the one on the bottom became the one on the top. Still they did not change their behavior, or maybe they did but to the worse, started to hate everyone on the bottom, there was no empathy at all. Slaves became masters but environment was not changed.

    CJ HesojamCJ HesojamIl y a 9 jours
  • Honestly... i find it even better than Parasite!!

    astropanastropanIl y a 9 jours
  • How is this film different from 1997's Canadian film, "The Cube?" I know the premise is different, but it's still basically the same theme, put characters into an impossibly inhuman situation and watch them lose their humanity. But can they regain it by the end with some noble act?

    Doc TarDoc TarIl y a 9 jours
  • I would bring a pitbull no one w'd fuck with me

    ADVICE NGOBENIADVICE NGOBENIIl y a 10 jours
  • oh now I remember why I unsubbed from this channel. If it is not a revelation, why wont you stop living the american wasteful life and live more conservatively. You on your american high horse totally missed the point of this movie. Really, comparing it to that other american train movie? That movie was really predictable. This one has a lot of layers to it and is lot more thought provoking. No wonder this channel is dying with jackasses like you making the content... Hey let me tell you something. If you want a real content creator tell a decent analysis of this movie, watch pyrocynical, maybe you can learn how to make a decent video essay for once!

    Szabó D. TamásSzabó D. TamásIl y a 15 jours
  • Yeah i agree. The metaphor treats trickledown economics like its an acident or just the people at top being evil/Callous There is no good reason for The Pit to exists. Its just a bad place that society would never have cuz they know its a bad idea. Capitalism on the other hand isnt so cut and dry. It isnt in and of itself designed to be cruel just for the sake of cruelity. The movie does a good job at pointing out why the system is bad but it doesnt have much more to say and its conclussion is ultimately to just tell the people in charge theyre dicks.

    Max SucksMax SucksIl y a 18 jours
  • comment section always pretty interesting for these analyses. I personally don't think there's more than a superficial link between Snowpiercer and the Platform (I liked both quite a lot). In Snowpiercer, the divide between class/wealth has always been there, they got on the train in those class systems and it stayed that way until the rebellion that is the plot. In the Platform, it's really vague why people go into the Hole - some volunteer, others seem to be serving a prison sentence, and the fact that they all move around every month randomly makes it even more complicated. There is a big mystery as to why the Hole exists in the first place and where it comes from so it's hard to draw social parallels, but I would venture to say that while it is a metaphor for an unjust and unequal system, the focus is more on how humans respond to it. Maybe Snowpiercer is more on the ball in describing wealth, poverty, and inequality in a capitalist society but the Platform explores individual psychology as we try to navigate an unequal, unjust, and practically inexplicable world.

    El BookishEl BookishIl y a 19 jours
  • This comment is VERY LONG. BUT I BEG YOU TO READ IT. YOU WILL NOT BE DISSAPOINTED. here are my two cents on the premise of this film: 1. The Hole is an experiment. 2. The Organization that is conducting this experiment has a worthwhile and very important aim. 3. The Aim of this experiment is to find out a set of people or a combination of personalities that can survive and function on limited resources(food) in a not so hospitable environment with minimum distractions and very sparing human contact. 4. Why is this experiment being conducted? Here is the reason: In a possible future, humanity will have to leave this planet and search for a new home. Now, one of two situations are likely. One, we send a scouting party to set up a frontal base on the "new home". Two, we can only send a limited amount of people to the "new home" to then survive and restart civilization. We cannot send people en masse to the "new home" because the infrastructure and time required for it is unfathomable. So, we can send only a select group of people there. The people in this group will not be chosen based on wealth or birth but merit. We will need the most well-rounded and competent group to restart civilization. This is a mission we cannot afford to fail. So now the question is... who must be in that group? On this "new home", we can use atmospheric gases to make water. The amount of farmable land will be very limited, so food will be limited. This means everyone will have to take only their share. The amount of cargo we can send with them will also be limited. So, everyone is allowed to carry one item of their choice. The "new home" is vast and manpower is limited, so we have to spread everyone out to work more efficiently. But, we cannot keep everyone alone or they'll go crazy very fast and we also cannot keep everyone together because work will be inefficient. Also. keeping everyone together means the unstable emotions of one person can spread to everyone. So, the most optimal solution is to keep people in pairs physically and have them communicate with others virtually (non-physical). Also, the farther you are from others, the more difficult it will be to communicate. But this solution is the best to avoid complete isolation and mass hysteria. Lighthouse keepers had this system too. Infrastructure on the "new home" will be "basic" at best. So, food, water, shelter and company are all taken care of. Now you might wonder, why not tell them all of this? The reason for this is that 'Law and order' is an illusion. In today's society, we obey the laws set by our governments because they have the power to punish us if we don't. On the "new home", no single person or a group of people have power consolidated to them. There will be a "leader" but everybody can choose to ignore his orders and there will be no consequence. This is what happened on pirate ships, where even though the captain was the leader, the crew can simply band together and replace him. But, if you were on a British empire ship, you had to obey the captain because he had the might of the empire behind him. Therefore, we need a group of people with personalities that can survive and function without being explicitly told to do so. Hence those extensive interviews before you are put in the hole. They keep track of all the personalities that enter so that the winning group is recorded. A person dead means their personality is unsuitable and hence they are replaced with a new one until the correct combination is reached. Then, why the random shuffle? This is a very important part of conducting experiments. You must try the experiment in all possible environments before finalizing the solution. This is because one random month, the experiment can work flawlessly. Everyone takes only what they are supposed to (this is why they are given their favorite foods everyday so that they can identify which one is their portion. Naming the portions would defeat the purpose since what is stopping you from taking other named packets). But this can be pure chance, so they must re-shuffle the order to make sure that the experiment still works. This is the reason for the re-shuffling. If they try all combinations and it still works... BINGO, we've found the golden combination. The best part, this can be used all over again when our "new home" is on the brink of ruin. This is humanity's restart protocol and I for one hope "the organization" succeeds. So, am I delusional or have I seen the "truth". Tell me in the comments....

    shlok jagushteshlok jagushteIl y a 21 jour
  • Also another thing to add about the 666 thing is that as some believe (which I agree with) Goreng already died early on, and anything beyond that is him trying to derive meaning from what has happened to him. Like Trimagasi believing on himself as being just and fair. Imoguiri on the system and Baharat on a deeper meaning and a greater cause. When he dies Goreng tries to seek a meaning hence why he imagines the girl. He justifies his death and sacrifice as a means to empower the youth to break the system that has stripped him out of his humanity. El Don Quixote is a book really important to Spanish culture, and in it there are often themes of chivalry being non sensical and christian values. So when he imagines 333 as the final floor it is a number created by the influences on his mind an upbringing. Had Gorag been a pothead the number might well had been 420.

    Alex RivAlex RivIl y a 21 jour
  • I didn’t like it, I find a lot of things incoherent, I mean yes the don Quijote references are good but I agree with what u say, the message doesn’t hit and I didn’t feel any empathy towards anyone! So yeah the message lost all the power that it could have done if they would put more in character development and in the context in general :/

    taylor stonetaylor stoneIl y a 21 jour
  • I thought of this movie as the development of religion and how God has saved the people and the God in this movie is the main character and the kid is Jesus. the woman, old man, and the black guy all help him fight the devil, both mentally and physically. The idea is to preserve rhe youth and teach them everything you know to help them on the way and repave and refurbish the future

    sMokesMokeIl y a 22 jours
  • This movie is deep. 333 floors deep ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

    SirCraigiusSirCraigiusIl y a 25 jours
  • Is this analysis deep or dumb? I vote dumb. No offence to the director.

    Nina TešićNina TešićIl y a 28 jours
  • So what you're saying at the end is that even if and idea that isn't new is shown in a new way like this movie does, it isn't clever enough for you. So only brand new and original ideas are worth your time, is that what you're saying? I see this movie as a kind of vulgarisation of a social commentary, making it more accessible to a wider audience. Vulgarisation is very important for the transmission of ideas and knowledge, and seeing the same idea in a lot of different ways helps better understand it. I find you very harsh towards this movie and very arrongant because it feels like to you, this movie doesn't deserve a "deep" just because it's not innovative enough for your taste.

    Neopick WindfireNeopick WindfireIl y a mois
  • I thought it was a great analysis of human desperation

    just a noobjust a noobIl y a mois
  • The message of the movie is not about greed, is about how our society has no solución to the problems we have. To solve the problems we should be perfect and we cant do that. Is not so much about who is a monster and who is not is about how greed is inevitable because of mere survival desire, it causes caos in our World. We all have a part which is evil in our souls and there no solution to that. The World is caos and there is nothing we can do to fix it.

    Allan BritoAllan BritoIl y a mois
  • I wish they made more videos like this, even if on the nose.

    Critical ThoughtsCritical ThoughtsIl y a mois
  • It’s deep as fuck after level 150

    Starbomb 27Starbomb 27Il y a mois
  • This film was great. A unique concept that makes you think and theorize

    TheMarKusTheMarKusIl y a mois
  • I don't think people are naturally as selfish as this movie implies, I think that the majority of people would try to ration and help each other and the greedy ones would be in a minority, with people who sh-t on others who are trying to climb up being extremely rare. Some things that annoyed me were that there seemed too many convenient things that happened at the 'right' moment eg the lady searching for her child showing up just in time to save him, his only being knocked out by the drug for longer than normal with Tremagasi (i.e. the guy who needed time to tie him up), that they find an apparently healthy and uninjured child living at the lowest levels. Also that there always seemed to be more floors below got rather old. It was also a bit frustrating that it was never explained how he was supposed to get a degree by being in prison (his lack of back story in general made him feel rather bland).

    Laura GarnhamLaura GarnhamIl y a mois
  • This misses the catholic interpretation, the pessimistic and the economic criticism

    Eduardo PonceEduardo PonceIl y a mois
  • L OL L

    SamSamIl y a mois
  • If you are having to ask that question, you did not understand it.

    Malik HjMalik HjIl y a mois
  • Cool premise dumb execution

    Mr. IrrelevantMr. IrrelevantIl y a mois
  • I think there was enough food for everyone, because at the interview, everyone is asked the question of "what is your favorite food?" and just like the snail dish the protagonist gets on the platform, it's cooked. So if they have asked every 666 inmates there about their favourite dishes, I think that's on the platform as well. It's just that - maybe too many people said "cake" and that's why there is a huge cake at the middle of the platform for everyone who asked for it. But I don't think the food was deliberately left inadequate.

    Umut YücelUmut YücelIl y a mois
    • @Roslyn Gordon Oh yes various types of malnutrition and vitamin deficiencies would definitely be on the table. I was just thinking calorie-wise.

      Umut YücelUmut YücelIl y a mois
    • @Umut Yücel eating 8 snails once a day for 6 months is no where near the amount of food humans need gonna be malnourished might even get scurvy

      Roslyn GordonRoslyn GordonIl y a mois
    • Roslyn Gordon sure it’s not enough to have a full stomach but I feel like it’s at least good enough for survival

      Umut YücelUmut YücelIl y a mois
    • I don't feel like that's enough to survive no one can just eat cake for 6 months straight or just eat like 8 snails once a day

      Roslyn GordonRoslyn GordonIl y a mois
  • WTF IS THIS SCAM ABOUT THE HAT THAT GROWS HAIR

    dimitris dirodimitris diroIl y a mois
  • I see Food as money, and People on the top the one who “rule” the world. If money is just paper why we just dont make it more ? (I know the answer) but think about it. JUST MAKE IT MORE JUST LIKE THE FOOD.

    Mariah AnnaMariah AnnaIl y a mois
  • It might seem simple, obvious, or even dumb, but most people are idiots.

    daniel grdaniel grIl y a mois
  • The message I took was: To ration the food, Persuasion (top to bottom or bottom to top) is futile, and violence bottom to top is futile. Only when someone close to the top begins acting as a violent dictator can resources be allocated according to need. i.e. communism.

    Zechariah JudyZechariah JudyIl y a mois
  • One question I have about the film is: Miharu (the woman who kills her cellmate each month and goes to try and find her child). How come she doe not find her child if she truly sits it out and waits to be at the bottommost floor? Or even weirder: How does she manage to go back up every time?

    SikamixoticelixerSikamixoticelixerIl y a 2 mois
  • I'm not personally the biggest fan of capitalism, I know it has many flaws, but the movie was dumb for me because it completely misunderstood the system's said flaws and mishandled its criticisms of them as a result. This was demonstrated with how much the movie wanted to hammer home the idea that people are inherently selfish, cruel, and always refuse to help others; The director does a good job showing how this mentality can completely screw you and everyone else over, but does nothing to address how _getting_ screwed over might influence your future decisions. The idea that the people were moving floor to floor, month after month with only a couple characters going "hey if I save food for them this month they might save some for me next month" absolutely blows my mind and makes little sense to me. I get that people are complete gluttons if left to their own devices, but at the same time it is a _very_ real thing to be selfishly selfless. If it means helping others might help you in the future, people are _much_ more likely to help those in need. *_Especially_* when not helping someone could *_literally_* mean you starving to death in the future. The fact that this was minimally addressed made the rest of the movie's criticisms seem more like a caricature rather than making an actually poignant statement

    Da Beast From Da WeastDa Beast From Da WeastIl y a 2 mois
  • this is not how capitalism works this is not how capitalism works at all

    Sage ManejaSage ManejaIl y a 2 mois
  • Video starts at 1:45.

    FleetFoxesFleetFoxesIl y a 2 mois
  • When your entire team of creators does worse job than one English boi

    Darth LuqDarth LuqIl y a 2 mois
  • Who’s here from pyro?

    peytonfuson_memes 1peytonfuson_memes 1Il y a 2 mois
  • I don't think these guys actually get it, the comments give better points, and you also totally overlooked the biblical symbolism

    Alvaro León 13Alvaro León 13Il y a 2 mois
    • Oh right no one I saw "explain" this movie brung that up

      Roslyn GordonRoslyn GordonIl y a mois
  • So this video’s opinion is a vague as the movies ending. Deep or Dumb?

    Tobias The WolfTobias The WolfIl y a 2 mois
  • Pyrocynical OP 🤘

    Raknas GRaknas GIl y a 2 mois
  • Definitely. It's 333 floors deep.

    JCG XIIIJCG XIIIIl y a 2 mois
  • i think you havent really watched the movie

    rghmfrghmfIl y a 2 mois
  • Good foreign films hit the spot my guy.

    NalceNalceIl y a 2 mois
  • ye here from pyro, needed m o r e on this movie

    RocketScoutRocketScoutIl y a 2 mois
  • Watching this movie, I couldn't help but notice the similarities with 'El Barro' (The Bar), another Spanish horror movie on Netflix with a lot of social/self commentary symbolized by a vertical structure (the three levels of the bar: street level, basement, and sewers). But I agree with this Wisecrack analysis. The first hour of the movie I was on the fence, and I even rolled my eyes at Goreng's cellmate accusing him of being a communist for suggesting that they share the food. The last half hour was way more thought-provoking and moved beyond the glaringly obvious "capitalism bad!" undertone. I do, however, disagree that the movie suggests that there is enough food for everyone: clearly that one daily platform could not support 666 people.

    FrаnкFrаnкIl y a 2 mois
  • 5 STARS ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐😎

    Alfredo MonarcoAlfredo MonarcoIl y a 2 mois
  • This reviewer is trying so hard for fucks sake! The film's Political allegory is very entertaining. This sort of visual style of entertainment isn't for everyone due to it's graphic depictions. But fuck! It's just a movie, lol enjoy it, have fun! Don't take it so serious. Take a break! So much going on all over the world to consistently worry about crap you unfortunately CANNOT CONTROL. And to the critic: Go suck a "mierda" like in the film's dialogue! Idiot.

    Alfredo MonarcoAlfredo MonarcoIl y a 2 mois
  • Hey wisecrack, is Netflix Dark deep or dumb? Even if you dont make a whole video bout it, a simple reply would be much appreciated.

    Tarequr RahmanTarequr RahmanIl y a 2 mois
  • *WARNING: this comment (like the video) contains spoilers!* I really like this movie, and I really enjoyed watching your video. At the end of the video you asked for our opinion, so here goes: I'm surprised by your point that the movie is, basically, saying "sharing is caring". That's not how I interpret it. In my eyes, the movie very clearly states that "sharing is caring" is hopelessly naive. It's just an obvious illusion. While rationing the food might actually work (based on the information they have at the time), there's NO way it could ever be practically implemented, given human nature. And, to drive home the depressing point, the pit is next to "bottomless", making rationing ACTUALLY impossible. To me, the "on the nose" premise of the film - capitalism feeding the selfish impulses of humanity - seems to just be a framework for touching upon the different stances we take to the very obvious societal problems caused by the skewed distribution of wealth/resources. No one has all the information needed to have a go at a real solution. Everyone is compartmentalized, seeing only the part of the problem that's in front of them, in the cell they happen to be confined to. Every piece of information may very well be false or misinterpreted (number of floors, child/no child, etc.). Every person we meet has a different approach ... and everyone throughout the movie fails, having their "solution" to the situation invalidated. The final nail in the coffin is the ending - which is shown way before the actual end of the runtime of the movie, as it turns out. When the "message" (the dessert, not the child - she was never real) gets to the kitchen, they - absurdly - interpret it as a critique of their presentation of the food. Oh, what problems people at the top have ... I'm sorry, but it seems to me you might have stopped just one or two levels short of what the movie was actually trying to say (whether it succeeded or not).

    Elnis888Elnis888Il y a 2 mois
  • There’s only one thing I really learned from that movie and it comes from one line “I can’t shit up”.

    Luis MartinezLuis MartinezIl y a 2 mois
  • Something that I believe was overlooked in the video. When the main character signs in on the platform project he states he wants something in return, a title certification. When he wakes up the old man sitting next to him tells the story of how he got the knife as his preferred request. In a way, I think the message is that when we elect to be an active member of the society we live in, carnage and all, we do so because we want something in return, and it´s usually something quite stupid if we look at the whole picture. After all, wall street brokers are selfish bastards because they want a bigger house or a nicer car or a boat and most of us wake up every day and go to pointless jobs so we can browse the amazon catalog in search of our next crappy item, all while ignoring the fact that most of the things we have are the product of an unjust, unfair and harsh system that forces some to slavery so that others can have a bigger iPad screen. We opt in for stupid reasons and when we get to our mediocre positions we defend them to hold on to our stupid stuff. Other than that. I think the movie wasn't that good. It´s a little too on the nose on many things and that ending seemed more like the director not being able to produce a decent conclusion. The best thing about the movie, in my opinion, is that it got people talking about the subject. And not many movies can do that nowadays.

    Juan Pablo MenchonJuan Pablo MenchonIl y a 2 mois
  • 0:45 really had to give me ptsd with those sound effects

    Aidan ConcannonAidan ConcannonIl y a 2 mois
  • Sorry but I thought it was dumb... It wasn't just constantly on the nose, but the massive plot holes made the movie frustrating to watch overall.

    Kevin SchmevinKevin SchmevinIl y a 2 mois
  • This film is definitely deeper that wisecrack

    Kong KwanKong KwanIl y a 2 mois
  • I agree with your assessment of "dumb," but not with the statement, "It's too on the nose." Your explanation that it doesn't say anything new or add to the conversation in any meaningful way is absolutely correct, but "on the nose" means that the movie is easily interpreted not that the movie's thesis is overplayed. My problem is actually the exact opposite: while it SEEMS to be on the nose, it's actually way too difficult to understand the final takeaway. Your interpretation of the ending seems accurate, but I've seen multiple analyses of that moment and I'm not convinced yours is the only relevant one. This confuses the "message" (literally) of the movie, and I'm just... not sure what to take from it. On the other hand, let's go for a truly "on the nose" film: Sorry to Bother You. STBY is not exactly subtle in its framing of capitalism as literally turning people into horses. But it's also about complacency as the protagonist becomes a part of the system he's opposing, before recognizing that he can never truly become a part of it. When a movie is subtle, it just gets misinterpreted as people insert their own beliefs into it as a form of confirmation bias. Even something like Fight Club, which openly opposes the patriarchal and nihilistic philosophies of Tyler Durden, is often taken as a glorification and a call to arms. Therefore, Sorry to Bother You does away with that subtlety and makes it impossible to misinterpret the film or to claim it has any meaning that isn't what Boots Riley and his crew intended. Which in itself is a statement: "The time for subtlety is over."

    David B JacobsDavid B JacobsIl y a 2 mois
  • So for you the movie is kinda shitty but you cannot wait to see the directors next project? Your credibility as a reviewer went to the toilet

    yamipabloyamipabloIl y a 2 mois
  • Like everyone said, there was never enough food and the people up top under the administration don't know how deep it goes.

    Invisible+InkInvisible+InkIl y a 2 mois
  • What I's like to know is how that platform floats.

    sogerc1sogerc1Il y a 2 mois
  • Don't think you put much thought into this video. And you give way to much credit to Snowpiercer, it was fine and very on the nose.

    brcbrcIl y a 2 mois
  • It's great to have assumptions of films, but you missed that the message was for the workers, not the administration. I'm not throwing a theory here, they literally say those lines on the film.

    ratonluchoratonluchoIl y a 2 mois
  • How is this movie dumb? I really think there's A LOT of things to consider from this movie. Each and every character put something to the whole story and there's much more to take from the movie than "Sharing is caring".

    Paul FoustourPaul FoustourIl y a 2 mois
  • You didn't even get the ending.. the girl never existed. The dessert did make it up there and they thought it wasn't eaten because of the hair in it.. shows little rich know about surviving and being in such situation. Dessert never got eaten, it never left the platform that's why they didn't freeze or cook to death. Everything past that point was a delusion as buddy was dying..

    DriggyDriggyIl y a 2 mois
  • before they are accepted they were ask whats their favorite food, if only they eat their favorite food, the food will be distributed to everyone but they chose greed!

    Lady GaladrielLady GaladrielIl y a 2 mois
    • Everyone says that but the reality is no one can survive on cake alone or even 8 snails imagine if you're the person who says your favorite food is grapes you'd only eat grapes everyday for 6+ months

      Roslyn GordonRoslyn GordonIl y a mois
  • Hay dos opciones, o yo soy un boludo que no ubica ni un carajo, o esta peli es una mierda de pérdida de tiempo

    kenthehobokenthehoboIl y a 3 mois
  • Actor of Goreng looks like Syrian actor named Ahmad Alahmad, i compared their faces and they really look similar

    GoGhalGoGhalIl y a 3 mois
  • I usually agree with Wisecrack, but its funny to see that in this case the comment section has stronger arguments.

    Enrique SánchezEnrique SánchezIl y a 3 mois
  • I really liked the movie. I guess he's right that it's basically generic and we all know there are too many shit bags out there who would fuck it all up. But I was entertained nonetheless.

    renraggedrenraggedIl y a 3 mois
  • While not dumb, for some reason, the last 15 minutes of the movie needed to pack in 2 hours worth of thoughts into itself, thus making it kind of messy and not flashed out enough to actually be anything but a messy conclusion. The whole movie is somehow tackling resource distribution. Ok, there is a cynic an optimist, a man who is trying to beat the system and Gorem a viewer substitute. By the end, Gorem comes to the conclusion, that the system is broken, but needs to be fixed from within. Which from the context of the movie makes sense. But then suddenly with about 15 minutes to go the "Pannacotta is the message". Which is jarring turn, as Gorem immediately accepts it. But sure, while you can try to change the system from inside, people outside should be shown that all is not alright I guess? Only for the message to suddenly change to "Girl is the message" with 5 minutes remaining to the end. And here the story fell apart for me. How did the girl survive? Or is she dead, and the Gorem is in a feverish dream. Sure, you can look at her as a proof that the system lied, but I am fairly sure, that the system knows it lies. I didn't see anywhere in the movie something that would suggest, that the reveal of the girl would accomplish anything. If we had a hint that perhaps she was born in the system or something it would maybe mean something, but as is, while the movie is fairly deep and thought-provoking, the ending is just too abstract to mean anything

    Michal DvorakMichal DvorakIl y a 3 mois
  • It’s dumb because American capitalism isn’t arbitrary. You have the opportunity to get to the top. My parents came to the US to escape socialism, they had 0 dollars but went to college and now own a one million dollar home. For those of you who are screaming corruption you are probably just too stupid and talentless to get anywhere. Also if y’all are so high and mighty, go invite all the homeless people to live in your home, you certainly don’t “need” all of that space. LOOK. Go share if you want! But you can’t force others to share. My parents have worked very hard for their money, they don’t need all of it but have worked harder than all of those homeless people on the streets. To force them to give their money to appease some deluded moral theory is wrong in itself and infringes on their freedom. Human nature isn’t ideal but to live in the best, most realistic way possible we have to admit that we are essentially animals. We have to face reality instead of always trying to convince ourselves that we are proper and moral, because we are not. Whenever we try to make things equal a new social hierarchy forms anyways.

    Maiva LaMaiva LaIl y a 3 mois
  • Cant believe people are defending this garbage. What a shit movie, I felt no immersion and hated every single character in this film, dont know why I bothered watching past the first 5 minutes. That's a couple hours of my life I'll never get back 🤦‍♂️

    Devin JohanningsmeierDevin JohanningsmeierIl y a 3 mois
  • We dont have proof that the little girl was always on level 333. I mean we can assume she was always pretty deep since her mom never found her. Perhaps never making it that far before being detained by other prisoners? Idk, but the point is wouldnt this little girl be emaciated as fuck by this point? The protagonist was in for 5 months before embarking on the journey with his cell mate. If we think about this "realistically" does the little girl's condition at the end have any impact on the story? Is she a dream or reality? Metaphor even?

    Eugene Sesma IIIEugene Sesma IIIIl y a 3 mois
  • Anyone use keeps..it better then Roman?

    chase greenchase greenIl y a 3 mois
  • I like this movie however it feels like it was written by a college kid who just passed a sociology course. Like in my opinion the film tries to hard to be like “look at the capitalist society we live in” like I’m not saying capitalism isn’t worthy of criticism all im saying is that this movie feels like capitalism explained by a 23 year old leftist who just finished watching Vaush or ContraPoints.

    Dustin StewartDustin StewartIl y a 3 mois
    • Dustin Stewart Agreed, it’s marxist propaganda (netflix is a marxist platform ). In American Capitalism, you can work your way to the top - meanwhile in the pit or whatever the FUCK your place in society is arbitrary. What my parents came to america 20 years ago (to escape from the freedom limiting and oppressive communist society of vietnam that tried to make everyone equal by the way), with 0 dollars and now own a one million dollar home. most people who complain about american capitalism are talentless and unintelligent so to get power they scream about a corruption that is not in society but just in their own useless brains. I’m being harsh a bit but it’s true. Leftists talk, they don’t do.

      Maiva LaMaiva LaIl y a 3 mois
  • Please do Dark (Netflix Show)!

    Phoenix DarkPhoenix DarkIl y a 3 mois
  • Oh yeah, spanish and latinamerican productions tend to fall shallow when they try make something serious.

    heroedeleyenda2heroedeleyenda2Il y a 3 mois
  • lol

    Dr ShyhoDr ShyhoIl y a 3 mois
  • Did anyone get Cube vibes from this movie?

    mr. dilonemr. diloneIl y a 3 mois
  • Great review, but I think it's silly to use snowpiercer as a counter example, when you feel that The Platform was to on-the-nose. I'd say they are about equal in this area. I don't think the simplicty of the satire in either film is a problem though, because that is intentional and there are other interesting things going on that make up for it. Concerning the platform, you failed to mention the elements of horror, the performances, the writing, the cinematography and set design. These are other important aspects of film, obviously.

    Collin McRaeCollin McRaeIl y a 3 mois
  • 9/9

    Константин ДевятовКонстантин ДевятовIl y a 3 mois
  • technically there where 667

    James NormanJames NormanIl y a 3 mois
  • Could you do one of these or a philosophy of video on Oregairu? I swear that it's worth it.

    jason cjason cIl y a 3 mois
  • Hey guys. Can u do an analysis Dr. Strangelove?

    Krishna v boseKrishna v boseIl y a 3 mois
  • The movie is awesome

    Pepe CuadradoPepe CuadradoIl y a 3 mois
  • Please please please make a deep or dumb about Existentialism in "Palm Springs"!!!! I can't stress this enough

    Yahel123KYahel123KIl y a 3 mois
  • the people in the prison 'chose' to be there though.

    Cons MaderoCons MaderoIl y a 3 mois
  • Anarcho-Communist Horror Fan here: A key element for me was not just the situation/premise, but how the characters respond The way they place blame/responsibility digs into Individualism vs Collective. The way they attempt reform (if they do try) digs into Idealism vs Materialism (in an academic sense, not colloquially). And the way they attempt dismantling digs into spontaneous vs organized revolution - a conversation that, for example, Marxist-Leninists and Anarchists frequently have Personally, the themes of these dialectics in tension with each other resonated most with me. And rather than being "on the nose" or not, I find it more important that the characters respond genuinely to the circumstances by going after their objectives without letting their commentary get in the way, which I think this film does beautifully I do not know y'all's politics, but I suspect the more people experience those dynamics in particular, the more this movie will resonate with them, rather than just agreeing "Capitalism is bad" To that point, I am not only not bothered the movie did not feature the administration more, I think it makes perfect sense, and showing the administration more than they already did would detract from what the film was really after: What are *we* doing about this, and what ideas are we acting on by our doings?

    Pierce DelahuntPierce DelahuntIl y a 3 mois
  • The pannacotta is the message

    carson cozzenscarson cozzensIl y a 3 mois
  • I very much agree with you. They made the message too obvious, too direct and that makes it lose its meaning.

    NatyNatyIl y a 3 mois
  • It’s totally dumb

    The south will rise again! 2020The south will rise again! 2020Il y a 3 mois
  • You don't get it

    fullofflexangel lfullofflexangel lIl y a 3 mois
  • Where is jared

    vivek prajapativivek prajapatiIl y a 3 mois
  • I liked this movie, but the irl dynamics are backwards: the excesses of capitalism have resulted in an obese lower-class. It’s easier to oppress a class that’s well-fed on cheaply manufactured starch, fat, and sugar than one that’s homicidally starving.

    RYANRYANIl y a 3 mois
  • Guys....the main character did not know how the place worked. He didn't go in as a "quest" or just to help and be a good guy...he went in for the degree, stop smoking and read. He only found out how everything worked and only got the idea of helping the others once he was in.

    Greg rulzz Ok ?Greg rulzz Ok ?Il y a 3 mois
  • very dumb

    Franco Girón FrancoFranco Girón FrancoIl y a 3 mois
  • I don't fuck with a lot of horror, so this film was uncomfortable to watch. It did make me think, feel and look for the nuances I missed, so for me at least, I give it a real hard A+.

    Keagan KelloggKeagan KelloggIl y a 3 mois
  • i mean how else would you get the point of this movie across without making it about sharing food?

    SkyWardHawk RobinsonSkyWardHawk RobinsonIl y a 3 mois
  • Would you guys do a deep or dumb on amazing world of gumball

    Khabane MoloiKhabane MoloiIl y a 3 mois
  • Allow me to blow all your fucking minds: The table of food represents knowledge. One thing this video's interpretation forgets about Don Quixote is that Quixote is also metaphorically (and subconsciously) on a quest for knowledge, specifically of the truth of the world around him. When he finally achieves truth, it is no longer of the world he has known and believed, and he therefore dies because his belief has died. The table starts at the top, with the bearers of all knowledge. They load it with everything. Those at the top are given first access to this knowledge. They consume whatever they can. As it descends, chunks of knowledge are taken, perverted, desecrated, etc., all until it reaches the bottom. By that point, there is no genuine knowledge or truth left. Our protagonist begins his accent to gain more knowledge, but by doing so, he is also gaining more truth of his delusions. Once he makes it to the bottom, he realizes that all the knowledge was deprived of the future, leaving them with the impossibility of knowing anything. This strips away his delusions and makes him see the whole truth. Once he sees this, he descends to the bottom and walks away. Why? He no longer wants to be a part of the structure depriving the future of knowledge. His world of belief is dead, and therefore, he dies. Simply put: The Platform is LITERALLY about platforms in which we get our information and how they have been perverted and destroyed by the time it gets to the lower levels of society (poor, impoverished, oppressed, etc). You're welcome.

    jakob187jakob187Il y a 3 mois
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