SNOWPIERCER: Can We Build a Better World?

15 juin 2020
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SNOWPIERCER - One endless train, one bloody revolution, one endlessly fascinating film.
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Bong Joon Ho is all the rave and rightly so. That's why we thought it'd be a good time to take a look back at his 2013 film, Snowpiercer. At first an apparently simple critique of global capitalism, we discovered there's SO much more than meets the eye. Let's find out in this Wisecrack Edition on the Philosophy of Snowpiercer

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  • What did you think of Snowpiercer? Can we build a more functional society? Let us know and don't forget to check out Vincero Watches to get up to 20% off during their sitewide sale. Visit vincerowatches.com/WisecrackSALE. Thanks to Vincero for sponsoring this video!

    WisecrackWisecrackIl y a 4 mois
    • *You are so full of shit* I can't dislike this inane video any more than the utter piece of disposable garbage Snowpiecofshiter. It was about as pathetically cliched, poorly written, and directed forgettable B movie pos that I had ever seen. Which, tbo, hurt because I'm a huge fan of the entire cast. This is not about Capitalism, its more relatable to Socialism or >> Communism

      UsirRaMaroonUsirRaMaroonIl y a 3 mois
    • @Teemu Mäki-PatolaMy response is as follows: In my critique of the video, I never mentioned that I didn't agree with inequality being a major societal issue. Another way of putting it is that a country's stability is dependent on the size of it's middle class. Which again, I totally understand not only in principle but also from first hand experience. I'm very skeptical of the article you presented for a bevy of reasons: it's very Merchantilistic; if you just change the initial figures of 20%-17% to 20%-16%, you start winning; the theory's 50/50 probability factor isn't even realistic etc, etc. But a mathematician /physicist is not an economist, and me being neither I tried to find the theory referenced in economists works or articles and...nothing. Given that it surfaced in 2002 and would have had time to flourish by now I must ask the question, is it just a load of mathematical bulcrap? or is it a small tool in the economists handbag that isn't referenced? But even if the theory would be true the US never had a free market. There have always been taxes in the US some up to 90% and 70%. Some of this money would later be used to fund programs such as "the great society" (a.k.a the woor o poverty). And back to my point, the damned snowpiercer train was not and is not a free society with a free market. It's a dictatorship by all means. Is it an egalitarian one, no(not that that would make it any better) but there is no sign of freedom that I can see. In conclusion, thank you for the article, however can't believe that inequality is a mathematical certainty, especially not from a simplistic model such as the one presented. I'm just grateful, we live in an time where such discussions are not illegal, where we have the means of informing each other on different perspectives, and where you can make a living by discussing philosophical ideas with some nice graphics on youtube and in chatrooms rather that eating bugs. So, grateful for the benefits that freedom and capitalism give me.

      1 21 2Il y a 3 mois
    • @@Teemu Mäki-Patola Thank you for your honest reply. I will review the linked article and formulate my response, but wanted to mention how appreciative a sane and serious point of view is in a sea of idiotic trolling comments.

      1 21 2Il y a 3 mois
    • @1 2 There is pretty good evidence that a completely free market economy always leads to a state where a few people have all the money. Even if the individual transactions are fair. The only way to prevent that is through an equalisation mechanism (taxes etc.) that takes away from rich and distributes some of that to the poor. www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-inequality-inevitable/

      Teemu Mäki-PatolaTeemu Mäki-PatolaIl y a 3 mois
    • Wisecrack could you do Aeon Flux the animated series not the shitty movie. I really liked the moral grey in the dystopian world of Aeon Flux like Trevor Goodchild maybe a dictator but his policy may have some benefits for Bregna citizens like a police men protected Aeon friend from a group of troubled teenagers or his surveilance state eradicated criminal enterprises and corrupted politicians but his actions also led to many harm to his citizens as well in order to fuel his sexual fantasy of human evolution, Aeon Flux mission is admirable but her action also questionable like she committed terrorism bombing and killing soldiers with human lives sometime involving harming innocent in a cold hearted way that we don't even know who is good and evil. Aeon Flux is a Gnostic tales where Trevor is a Demigod and Aeon is the Sofia. Trevor a demigod believe he can rule both the spirit and materials world but Aeon the Sofia ruined his life just to remind him he is not a God but a charlatan and should accept the truth. Aeon Flux is like a satire tales of action hollywood movies, the stupidity of ideological feud and 1984 at the same time.

      long w lenguyenlong w lenguyenIl y a 4 mois
  • There's a character that really seems to be a Ayn Rand reference, guess which one?

    Christian C. Moncada ReyChristian C. Moncada ReyIl y a jour
  • I think it's pretty clear the movie was meant to be a think piece, because the whole premise doesn't make any fucking sense when you think about it for a second.

    CthultystkaCthultystkaIl y a 4 jours
  • May I just note that they’re getting off the train somewhere in Russia or Ukraine

    nova fortunanova fortunaIl y a 26 jours
  • The problem with a lot of anti-capitalistic propaganda is that it points to things which specifically go against capitalism as it's flaws. Bailouts for companies to big to fail is a classic example of Moral Hazard. Which is a case where those engaging in risky behavior don't suffer the consequences of that behavior thus allowing them to continue and possible take even risky behavior. Companies going out of business is a natural part of the capitalist system regardless of the business size. Allowing it to drag on is likely allowing a wound to fester instead of amputating the limb as it grows even larger it only delays the inevitable which will be even worst later. When it comes to supply and demand it is a fundamental driving force of all economics. That doesn't mean that it's existence is a magic cure that will bring prosperity to all. Rather understanding it can allow for better management of resources in the same way building a water reservoir allows storing large amounts of water during dry periods to get the most out of it instead of just letting it all flow away in some stream or river. The abuse of the supply and demand system are best demonstrating in the form of a Monopoly. These organizations often limit the production to a point below the natural balance point on the supply curve in order to create a shortage and drive up prices. The Diamond industry is a great example of this as diamonds are very common gem stones yet seriously over priced due to hoarding as a way to inflate their prices. Not only does this mean that those who should be able to afford them if they were at price reflected in their true supply but it also allows the introduction of criminal elements. The discovery of diamonds in war torn regions had local war lords selling what became knows a Blood or Conflict diamonds on the market by under cutting the monopoly's price while still being greatly over priced. The companies that formed these monopolies could have easily undercut the conflict diamonds by dumping their hoard on the market but that would have meant cutting into their profits and instead tried PR campaigns to have people feel good about buying "non-conflict certified" diamonds. Yet the only reason those conflict diamonds were so valuable was because of those limited supply diamonds the average consumer was expected to feel good about buying. The purpose of Capitalism is to allow for free trade, which means that both parties willing agree to an exchange of goods and services. Any time force is used this goes against the spirit of capitalism. So when eminent domain is used to take land, money seized in taxes is given to bailout a company, native people are driven from their land, and so on this goes against Capitalistic ideals as the threat of violence or imprisonment was used to coerce people into giving up something they didn't want to, at least not at the price offered if any at all. What we have more now a days is a sort of Crony Capitalism where those with money "lobby" (or as it was known back in the day, bribe) political figures to get laws passed which benefit them. These rules and regulations often help to keep out competition so they can maintain their control on the market place. Much like how when Google Fiber got started a bunch of cable companies got local governments to pass new laws which made it impossible for Google Fiber to expand into those regions, thus stifling competition. This is a classic example of Crony Capitalism where those with money and power use it to crush would be upstarts. Instead of competing in the Capitalistic Open Market place where they compete supply the best service and the consumers vote with their wallets they instead took it to the realm of politics where a handful of easily influenced politician clamp down on their competition for them.

    PyroMancer2kPyroMancer2kIl y a mois
  • I think the film should be an example of skin deep revolution namely, it largely ends in death and destruction. Given their disposition it's likely everyone will die because of a poorly thought out decision. If he wanted to he really shouldn't just learned to leave the train via stopping it or just jumping out onto the huge amount of snow.

    The LawThe LawIl y a mois
  • team hopeless represent! awful forever, we are all going to die and there will be no one left to mourn us!

    Stephen BaldwinStephen BaldwinIl y a mois
  • Where do all the bugs come from?

    Kristen CooperKristen CooperIl y a mois
  • "any tweaking of the free market will cause famines or end with gulags" - well in the real world, there is no free market, because there is politics. No free market would survive on its own that's why you find state capitalism everywhere, but no real free market economy that deserves its name. The state is always there

    Charles BourgoigneCharles BourgoigneIl y a mois
  • Agenda 21 Foreshadowing

    Jerico19Jerico19Il y a 2 mois
  • I always saw this movie as an allegory for the Tower of Babel. The higher man climbs the more hopeless his place in universe. Even when God himself (Wilford) offers the main character a chance to rule over man, the man character realizes that no one should hold God’s power because man is not able to make it work for everyone. Therefore the story becomes about how man is inherently imperfect and not suited to rule the world.

    Frank WestFrank WestIl y a 2 mois
  • I would argue that Adventure Time really isn't necrofuturist since the apocalyptic conflict was magical and doesn't seem to have been politically or even profit-driven. And the future they live in, while having its own issues, isn't really an economy based on death and oppression. I mean, a 12 year old can afford a huge treehouse on a "running around fighting monsters with his friends for seemingly no pay" salary. What does Tree Trunks do for work? She doesn't seem to sell her pies that I recall. There are monarchies, but it's variable how much power they have and why. Lumpy Space Princess seems to be pretty much on par with her peers and her family seems to live a middle class life. Is Bubblegum even a Princess or just kind of....the mother of an entire country??

    Charlie ParkerCharlie ParkerIl y a 2 mois
  • Can you guys do a philosophy video on the dystopian game We Happy Few?

    RelesyRelesyIl y a 2 mois
  • This video about anticapitalism sponsored by capitalism... wait really, that's a bit weird

    KrazyKaiserKrazyKaiserIl y a 2 mois
  • Isn't anyone going to talk about Swinton's stellar performance in this?

    Elli SketoElli SketoIl y a 2 mois
  • No.

    salgsalgIl y a 2 mois
  • What if other rich people or the military figured out how to save our asses

    Matthew FredericksMatthew FredericksIl y a 2 mois
  • I was hoping for Netflix Snowpiercer take

    A. FilakiewiczA. FilakiewiczIl y a 3 mois
  • So i have Netflix but I dont see the series on it? Didn't netflix made a series about this

    J ChuckJ ChuckIl y a 3 mois
  • I think hope is impeded. The bear at the end is the symbol of the continuation of life.

    Basem TawfekBasem TawfekIl y a 3 mois
  • I don`t know why, but "Necrocapitalism" looks like comunism, with the only difference that comunism killed 100 millon people in real life

    Cristian50088Cristian50088Il y a 3 mois
  • Those kids definitely died at the end. There are exactly 0 fucking ways in which they survive.

    Hidden SalamiHidden SalamiIl y a 3 mois
  • 'Luxury watches that cost less than other premium brands.' So... not luxury watches, then.

    MrSporksterMrSporksterIl y a 3 mois
  • 7:00 that man has an AMAZING name

    Eiran KeatingEiran KeatingIl y a 3 mois
  • There is no way that these two kids could survive in the outside world...Even if they were put in a better climat condition, they would probably die...and that's why human being live in society so that we can support each other and sustain the collective survival. Plus, how are they suppose to repopulate the whole planet, now that all the other humans are died from the avalanche ? There is not enough of DNA diversity. The ending is just too symbolic that it lost it's symbolic power and failed to convince me (whereas the rest of the film is very realistic and symbolic at the same time). For me, it's about breaking free from the system only to embrace an invetitable death (thus the whole death&freedom speech). But all my friends who have watched the film liked it...maybe that's only my problem.

    Elmer PENGElmer PENGIl y a 3 mois
  • The movie is not about capitalism. The different economic groups are legally confined to their own section, and any attempt to change level results in death. Also the goods and services (protein slabs for example) are not provided through free market but rather through “the government” of the train- they’re even distributed by the police. It parallels communism far more than capitalism but even that isn’t quite right. The most accurate comparison in the real world would be The cast systems of India or japan.

    D BD BIl y a 3 mois
    • haha r/whooosh

      Jared BudlerJared BudlerIl y a 3 mois
  • this would be more believable on a generational spaceship. but the philosophy is horse shit

    TheErraticTheoryTheErraticTheoryIl y a 3 mois
  • The end could also mean that with the end of the train, i.e. the end of capitalism, that the majority of humanity would die. How is what happened routinely with efficiency and more or less just than the cyclical nature of the train, with death and life being controlled by capitalism. His choice to end the train does not seem like it would be a good way to die.

    Zac BaileyZac BaileyIl y a 3 mois
  • Prolly accurate to our future possible timeline. In terms of actions taken on planet and the aftermath of actions. Concerning the route we are on with capitalism....I wonder if we are playing with the idea of sustainability, but in our case me thinks the upper class fears the lower. And I think we as lower class are more prone to compromise, when the upper class would consider to destroy in order to maintain said system. It's a paradox.

    Tone BaloneTone BaloneIl y a 3 mois
  • i had a hope you will shad some light into the "Can We Build a Better World?" but no you just w8std my time

    Dmytro PickyDmytro PickyIl y a 3 mois
  • movie is not about capitalist lol it s about civilization as a whole

    Dmytro PickyDmytro PickyIl y a 3 mois
  • snowpiercer movie is a great test if the viewer had any intelligence . many completely incapable to see the metaphor of a loop we are in ... a mad civilization going nowhere.

    Dmytro PickyDmytro PickyIl y a 3 mois
  • how did you picture quality got worse? lol

    Dmytro PickyDmytro PickyIl y a 3 mois
  • it‘s pronounced „nahm“, „nahm goon“. he says it in the movie. you americans could at least try pronouncing foreign names correctly, it‘s not that difficult.

    Mila DegMila DegIl y a 3 mois
  • sounds more like cast-based feudalism rather than free market capitalism. or even more like a form of totalism.

    Xi JinpingXi JinpingIl y a 3 mois
  • the train and its ideology was the only nobel thing in the movie

    Oskar TuulingOskar TuulingIl y a 3 mois
  • It's like you said in your Lord of the Rings video. History is just one long defeat.

    Glenn GoldenrodGlenn GoldenrodIl y a 3 mois
  • JARED YALL HAVE TO DO THE LAST OF US PART 2

    laserspark123laserspark123Il y a 3 mois
  • Do Antz.

    The Jazz KingThe Jazz KingIl y a 3 mois
  • "the internships are all unpaid" true... but I bet that kid doesn't eat roach bars If for no other reason than, using Gilliam's logic, it's more EFFICIENT to just feed him filet mignon

    Abigail SlaughterAbigail SlaughterIl y a 3 mois
  • I just... the sun still exists, and the train itself proves that you can RESIST the cold with technology. so...why the moving train? why go all around the world. stable central city, Snowpiercer (or w'ever its name is) goes in a smaller loop around central city to collect water and other residuals...can even make satellite hubs where other city/track jurisdictions would intersect. It'd basically just be the Wild West...with snow instead of sand. Feel like I gotta be missing something, maybe the film had some background context lost in translation?

    Abigail SlaughterAbigail SlaughterIl y a 3 mois
  • ROACH BARS ...Actually JUST WATCHED THIS like...3 days ago... I saw the trailer ages back and then just forgot about it. A friend scrolled by it on his Roku and it reminded me...so a few nights later, I watched it. just... hmm... I enjoyed the film, but I still feel nitpicky about a lot of it.

    Abigail SlaughterAbigail SlaughterIl y a 3 mois
  • Maybe eat more vegetables?

    madblademadbladeIl y a 3 mois
  • Intentional or not, the dystopia of Snowpiercer is more of an indictment of Leftist/Marxist/Progressive "solutions" to the supposed problems of capitalism, from population control to extreme environmentalist crusaderism to rule by elites and their inhumane theories "for the greater good." The revolution at the end is borne of the realization that all the promise of Progressive crusaderism is a lie, and it only makes more misery. Thus, the whole thing must be derailed amid great destruction of the order that had previously been accepted "for the greater good." Figures like Trump and events like Brexit are what that looks like in the real world. There is hope, but only to the degree that the "greater good" machinations of the anti-human elites can be derailed and destroyed.

    Antaine Ó hÓgáinAntaine Ó hÓgáinIl y a 3 mois
  • You should've done a deep or dumb on this one, as it doesn't seem deep but dumb to me. There are so many good Dystopia / Capitalism-critical films, but I think this one is not one of them.

    Cha milCha milIl y a 3 mois
  • Capitalism: Puts most people into a hellish reality as a solution for its flaws... 'cause we are not allowed to explore other solutions, or so the bourgeoisie tell us.

    Roach DoggJRRoach DoggJRIl y a 3 mois
  • The questions Snowpiercer specifically asks is "Can humanity exist outside of capitalism?" The ending of the movie says yes.

    SardonicSardonicIl y a 3 mois
  • Well you didn’t mention that paradoxically this system is also a representation of a fascist dictatorship system like Iran (a religious one), which constantly bombards its citizens through propaganda that this is the best shot we can have and we are the last true religious system and the holiest too. They are saying that you may not have welfare like western countries but we have provided the safest place in the region of war (yet they oppress any different voice and kill the protestors even now just like during the past 40 years). This is more accurate to a system like Iran than to capitalism- this movie is not like Parasite in this sense.

    H. AshrafiH. AshrafiIl y a 3 mois
  • I wonder if Bong Joon Ho is saying in a roundabout way that America belongs to Asians through his movies.

    Águila701Águila701Il y a 3 mois
  • Damn! I love This channel! thank you guys!

    Fernando Guzmán LagunesFernando Guzmán LagunesIl y a 3 mois
  • boromir you are such a cool.modern fella

    marcus bingusmarcus bingusIl y a 3 mois
  • Jared, your videos tend to be the only Wisecrack content I enjoy anymore.

    William YanceyWilliam YanceyIl y a 3 mois
  • More authoritarian gov’ts would go the soylent green route. Capitalism would monetize abortions and hire people to hunt deadly animals and find out to cook them or just use prisoners in future arenas

    UmamaGoblinUmamaGoblinIl y a 4 mois
  • Please do a video about the Metal Gear Solid series ... and maybe Metal Gear Rising :D

    JuanSS93JuanSS93Il y a 4 mois
  • পথের পাঁচালী !!!

    alok 009alok 009Il y a 4 mois
  • *When you realize that the movie director is the one who directed Parasite, with actors having Chris Evans and legendary John Hurt*

    Val MidVal MidIl y a 4 mois
    • Captain America and Professor Trevor Bruttenholm

      lightheart5lightheart5Il y a 3 mois
    • I miss John Hurt

      thatonedude But who?thatonedude But who?Il y a 3 mois
  • Jared’s hair looks like he dries it by sticking a fork in a wall outlet

    Jake GarrisJake GarrisIl y a 4 mois
  • Hi Friendos. See you Stewn ;) - The Stewpiercer

    Rhino StewRhino StewIl y a 4 mois
  • It's The Matrix, but with a train.

    Guillermo Jr BoyGuillermo Jr BoyIl y a 4 mois
  • No, the matrix won't let us

    Real_Slim_ShadyReal_Slim_ShadyIl y a 4 mois
  • Everything will be awful forever.

    Adriana JSAdriana JSIl y a 4 mois
  • Through great sacrifice...yes.

    Lil' EloLil' EloIl y a 4 mois
  • Wisecrack slowly going socailist

    oxi tocinoxi tocinIl y a 4 mois
  • The middle class is the weapon of the rich which is used to enslave the poor, the promises of a better life as relation to money is the only thing keeping the middle class complacent. They don’t have a lot but enough to making losing it a control. People always talk about the evil rich and the oppressed lower class but the middle class is what keeps capitalism alive. The false narrative of that one day if you work hard enough you will climb the ladder to the upper class and if you stop working you lose everything you have. If the lower class are the people in the back of the train and the upper class are the rich people in the front, the middle class are the police that enforce the laws they keep the system alive they are mindless sheep easily sacrificed by the rich in the hope that it will appease the poor if for a little bit to sustain the cycle. And even in the upper class there is no stability Because it’s a perpetual hot seat waiting for when the numbers get to big to throw some of themselves to the wolves. It’s way more complicated then the rich hate the poor and are oppressing them but in reality it’s the rich who oppress the middle class which makes the system of capitalistic oppression run and within that upper class there is still self created oppression they cannot exist without balance nobody is free in the wheel. Each class takes turns scraping the road to keep the machine turning. So the reality is it’s no a system designed by some mastermind or an evil government but a literal prison we made to control ourselves because we can’t imagine an alternative. Just like jared said we have an easier time blaming the system of its flaws and wishing for it to crumble but we cannot see 2 steps ahead to notice that a revolution with out a plan of reconstruction isn’t a movement of breaking the wheel but resetting it atop the hill before it rolls again.

    Gotti NoirGotti NoirIl y a 4 mois
  • People really didn't get this movie, on average. It is about class, it is about tyranny... But it isn't an apology of class revolt or a condemnation of the rich. It's a little more complex; and it hits everyone - the poor, the rich, the middle class... ALL are complicit in tyranny. The only way to escape tyranny: don't participate - GTFO the train.

    Nikolaij BrouillerNikolaij BrouillerIl y a 4 mois
  • He got fat

    Bogdy YoBogdy YoIl y a 4 mois
  • I could think of a couple of alternatives for enlightened human beings but none for flawed ones.

    Edgar RoockEdgar RoockIl y a 4 mois
  • Not capitalism.

    Cynical OptimisticCynical OptimisticIl y a 4 mois
  • Necrocapitalism is why the US sponsored genocide in Indonesia in 1965.

    Frank McManusFrank McManusIl y a 4 mois
  • The thing that a lot of these anticaptialist movies seem to ignore is the true mobility of individuals in our capitalist society. In the movies, its treated as a caste system, a permanent, unchanging position, with the rich staying rich and the poor staying poor. That simply isn't the case in most of our world, and frankly its blatantly disregarded to create our dark and depressing movies. There is far more economic movement in today's society, than Hollywood wants to give credit for. But, grim, apocalyptic pessimistic films are enjoyable to watch, so keep on making them!

    Your Favorite Claymation PenguinYour Favorite Claymation PenguinIl y a 4 mois
  • I hate this movie. First it's a revenge filled slaughterhouse, then when captain communism has an actual opportunity to make changes he desides to destroy all hope for humanity. Yea! The snow is melting. Earth is warming again. Just wait it out a bit longer, but noo! They made me it cocroches and now all must burn. Also, the train is a private property and the rich people actually payed the ticket to get on. The tail end got on for free, while the rest of the world died. They are in a place of privilege.

    Akaking მაქაცარიაAkaking მაქაცარიაIl y a 4 mois
  • I'm worried. :(

    Cass GryphonCass GryphonIl y a 4 mois
  • THE POLITICIAN!!!!!!

    George SimmonsGeorge SimmonsIl y a 4 mois
  • Nice analisis, I still don't like that movie.

    Axel PrinoAxel PrinoIl y a 4 mois
  • "treat a group of people as an object of study, versus what it means to LEARN from them" , thats a heavy line right now

    Dope RegistryDope RegistryIl y a 4 mois
  • Now do that tom Hiddleston movie about tall building

    Anshuman ShuklaAnshuman ShuklaIl y a 4 mois
  • The future logic of capitalism is murder, that's why it's easier to imagine the end of the world rahter than the end of capitalism, because that's where it's taking us....

    PD ZombiePD ZombieIl y a 4 mois
  • You guys should attempt a study on "Its such a beautiful day" MORE ART FILMS!

    Maxwell HentoshMaxwell HentoshIl y a 4 mois
  • Here's the link to the mentioned paper by Gerry Canavan's "Snowpiercer and Necrofuturism" epublications.marquette.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1298&context=english_fac

    Edgar RoockEdgar RoockIl y a 4 mois
  • I think the thumbnail is trying to spell hope? Someone messed up the P

    Corvin BassCorvin BassIl y a 4 mois
  • What a flawed idea of capitalism. You guys can do better. Government bailouts ARE NOT capitalism.

    Nick TannNick TannIl y a 4 mois
  • To answer the title no

    Ghost BoltGhost BoltIl y a 4 mois
  • Finally saw that we have Chonky Jared

    Daniel SteyskalDaniel SteyskalIl y a 4 mois
  • One thing the TV Adaptation is missing is Tilda Swinton. She was a character you loved to hate and loved to watch.

    Devious JDevious JIl y a 4 mois
  • A more compassionate world built by people wearing fur doesn't sound very realistic to me.

    Olga ZadigOlga ZadigIl y a 4 mois
  • You comment necrogovernism or necrocapitalis like Marx and Engels didn't wrote about bourgeoisie state and social murder

    Renan SouzaRenan SouzaIl y a 4 mois
  • Unlike socialism, capitalism is always the dystopia where innocents are all the poors who are oppressed by the systemic hierarchies created by the small numbers of bourgoesies.

    ZergforLoserZergforLoserIl y a 4 mois
  • Isn't the earth. It self going around in a sircle

    Manophere. comManophere. comIl y a 4 mois
  • Socialist and Communist systems have the 1% at the top also.

    Robert CoughlinRobert CoughlinIl y a 4 mois
    • Hahah look at this clown

      Burn GraceBurn GraceIl y a 4 mois
  • Not gonna lie, im here because i thought the thumbnail of putting hope on its head was just way too clever

    Maxeon LoveheartMaxeon LoveheartIl y a 4 mois
  • My boy Jared is getting thicc.

    BlazeBlazeIl y a 4 mois
  • Implying gulags is bad.

    nero wulfee92nero wulfee92Il y a 4 mois
  • i think the movie says that reform isnt an option. total revolution is what is required

    theohallworththeohallworthIl y a 4 mois
  • The only real valid question to ask about state vs citizen is; Who will watch the watchers? It's the ultimate question because no matter what bills and laws are passed on the issue of police brutality; politicians change it all back again. The status quo will return. It becomes a question of how do you maintain a good law or good bill. Personally I think the solution lies in watching and surveying the government. It should be us watching them, not them watching us. We need a more transparent government; one that cannot hide behind the "national security" excuse. Groups like anonymous should train and recruit new members all over the world. The citizenry need their own NSA. That way more of the governments misdeeds can be exposed. We could be on equal footing with them.

    JackJackIl y a 4 mois
  • Everything is mad awful forever... EXCEPT Jared's wonderous mane.

    J QuiznosJ QuiznosIl y a 4 mois
  • Dat Quilt Do

    Sean ClineSean ClineIl y a 4 mois
  • You guys should do Killing them softly! Would be great in today’s climate.

    Craig MathewsCraig MathewsIl y a 4 mois
  • May the memory of K-Punk never fade. RIP Mark Fisher.

    Ben ClarksonBen ClarksonIl y a 4 mois
  • Sounds like socialism to me. From each according to their ability and all that. Too big to fail is capitalism, aka the pejorative pseudosociety of the socialist.

    9:159:15Il y a 4 mois
  • I thought that it was a copout to blow up the train. The act, in and of itself was impulsive. There was very little chance for anything positive to be gained by it. That said, if Curtis were to allow Wolfred to pass the mantle of leadership onto him, then he could redesign the train city however he chose. Also, in spite of Curtis's hatred for Wolfred, and his trauma upon first settling the train, he proved himself to be a pragmatist, when he both "ate the weak", and when he allowed his "friend" to die in order to secure a valuable hostage, and save the rest of his group. While his final confrontation with Wolfred was sans his entire starting group, he was still a pragmatist, so his decision to blow the train seemed out of character.

    Sean MachlanSean MachlanIl y a 4 mois
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