Paul Verhoeven: Is He Deep or Dumb? (ft. Total Recall, Starship Troopers)

21 août 2020
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You know Verhoeven's provocative. But is he smart, too?
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Paul Verhoeven's been shocking American audiences for decades with depraved onscreen violence and sex. But are his cinematic transgressions actually saying something more? Let's find out in this Wisecrack Edition on Paul Verhoeven: Deep or Dumb?

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  • What do you guys think? Is Verhoeven deep or dumb?

    WisecrackWisecrackIl y a 2 mois
    • He certainly isn't an idiot if you've listened to his interviews. But he makes pure gold out of dumb, tasteless shit.

      Dino Van HammerDino Van HammerIl y a 22 jours
    • I was today years old when i found out that this person was responsible for these 3 films. Like Benny I wish I had 3 eyes... I mean hands.

      Johnny 5Johnny 5Il y a mois
    • Both

      Boring as frickBoring as frickIl y a mois
    • Deep as Fcckkk lol I love it

      Treats and Threads youtubeTreats and Threads youtubeIl y a mois
    • Deep

      SSK286SSK286Il y a mois
  • sargon of akkad already destroyed your stupid starship troopers arguments; they are saving themselves from extermination

    007kingifrit007kingifritIl y a 4 heures
  • Why not both?

    peer eboompeer eboomIl y a 4 jours
  • Always found it interesting just how fascinated people are when they visit places like the colosseum, imagining the horrific blood sports that happened there in disbelief that people could be so brutal. And yet today, it's not like we haven't just recreated the same kinds of entertainment with extremely graphic violence in films, TV and gaming. The only difference is that in the modern world we've been able to fulfil this weird obsession with carnage by using virtual proxies instead of the real thing. And if it's all lacking the intense communal energy that comes from being in a huge crowd watching it, we've recreated that too with popular sports played in massive arenas. The only real difference is that people back then lived a step away from death at all times, they saw violence, cruelty and illness around them all the time. Today in developed countries we're far more removed from that visceral experience, but there still seems to be a need to recreate the same kind of imagery in our cultures nonetheless.

    tbirdparistbirdparisIl y a 10 jours
  • Question: How does Zwartboek (black book) fits in this narrative?

    Kanus BarzanuzKanus BarzanuzIl y a 20 jours
  • This video actually made me feel good about my deep revulsion for the movie Starship Troopers. I saw it in the movie theatre (after hearing much hype) and almost walked out. I hated it! Now I understand that it is a deeps-seated disdain for all things fascist. Makes sense now .

    Heather DraneHeather DraneIl y a 22 jours
    • Greetings from the royal family add me on email address princefazza54327@gmail.com

      Prince hamdanfazzaPrince hamdanfazzaIl y a 18 jours
  • Show this to Joe Rogan.

    Lev ZhivaevLev ZhivaevIl y a 27 jours
  • Thank you for not throwing Showgirls under the bus.

    Fragarach LuinFragarach LuinIl y a mois
  • Is "Don't Mess With the Zohan" Deep or Dumb?

    aacompton94aacompton94Il y a mois
  • I'm doing my part and giving out free hugs.

    Johnny 5Johnny 5Il y a mois
  • I love Verhoven's work both because it's deep but also dumb depending on how far down you wish to look. If you want to turn off your brain, it's a good B-movie action flick. If you want to think, put yourself in the shoes of the characters.

    capnthepeafarmercapnthepeafarmerIl y a mois
  • Sad to think that this is Jared’s last analysis video in the channel :(

    Carlo BauzaCarlo BauzaIl y a mois
  • the dude is amazing, had no idea he did all of these. starship troopers is still incredible to this day

    hiroponhiroponIl y a mois
  • The violence in American movies isn’t necessarily “over the top” if anything it’s actually designed to make us more comfortable with violence. To me, over the top violence is realistic violence or goes out of its way to make violence as graphic and awkward as possible, which usually makes an audience extremely uncomfortable. Don’t know what this says about verhoven movies, I think he’s still satirizing American culture but he’s not satirizing the fact that we love violence. I think it’s satirizing how we love theatrical violence while we’re uncomfortable with the real thing.

    Walter WhiteWalter WhiteIl y a mois
  • So this was Jared's last video.. F

    Steve EastSteve EastIl y a mois
  • I feel like something being deep, shouldn't exclude it being dumb. Especially with Verhoven's work.

    Vitina MorabitoVitina MorabitoIl y a mois
  • Another youtuber over thinking. It's dumb. He adds sex and violence because it sells! no sales, no hollywood career

    mitchio86mitchio86Il y a mois
  • Paul Verhoeven isn't an idiot. He's a man of refine culture.

    User saysUser saysIl y a mois
  • i love starship troppers but total recall is one of the best SF movies. FIGHT ME

    LeverquinLeverquinIl y a mois
  • Skip to 1:50

    Mike SMike SIl y a mois
  • I would point your viewers towards Verhoeven's Black Book, which is a thoughtful WWII film.

    Tristan MartinTristan MartinIl y a mois
  • "Are we the baddies?" WKUK

    HappyChibiHappyChibiIl y a mois
  • Jared is the best narrator on this channel.

    tigerkill420tigerkill420Il y a mois
  • I thought you were gonna say Hollow Man when speaking of his most reviled. (If it wasn't so forgotten I think it would be)

    Franco AsmaeilFranco AsmaeilIl y a mois
  • deep or dumb lmao thats really cringe also hilarious that your audience is mainly bald men im assuming since youre marketing to them.

    trueharmtrueharmIl y a mois
  • You guys should do the next deep or dumb about Lodge 49- Another Quijote one, lol

    Smarty danger and cutenessSmarty danger and cutenessIl y a mois
  • Whether it's deep or dumb, I'd buy THAT for a dollar!

    kurtreznorkurtreznorIl y a mois
  • Does doggy chow refer to actual dog food or the powder sugar covered chocolate and peanut butter Chex mix?

    Torgo SavesTorgo SavesIl y a mois
  • I like the video but the highlighter sound is grating as fuck.

    Denis517Denis517Il y a mois
  • I guess the issue with his work is that lot's of people consume it without realizing it's satire. Build their worldview that some fascism would be great if there are bugs to fight. Basically by showing the smart viewer what they need to watch out for he's still furthering the causes he fights by giving the dumb ones exactly what they want in an acclaimed and socially acceptable way.

    MolochDEMolochDEIl y a mois
  • Please never use that highlighter marker sound effect ever again. it was like nails on a chalkboard.

    Julia CoeJulia CoeIl y a mois
  • The way you justified watching Verhoeven's over the top sex and violence is also self-bashing... You must really hate yourself. I'm so proud of you ;-)

    Nicolai VelikiNicolai VelikiIl y a mois
  • It seems Verhoeven is the Slaanesh of the 2nd milenium.

    SapienSapienIl y a mois
  • For anyone who wants to see Verhoeven's calling card, look no further than his first American-made film "Flesh + Blood". It's literally in the title, he finds sex and violence interesting, and asserts that the two are one and the same. Not only does he lay bare what would be the running themes throughout his later films, he also provides a spot-on critique of organized religion and its relation to the typically white-washed storytelling in medieval/fantasy films. It's currently streaming on Prime in the US and I HIGHLY recommend it.

    Jason GeorgisJason GeorgisIl y a mois
  • Ya know I was just watching it and I gotta say what would be an interesting deep or dumb is the anime Shimoneta. I never realized it was a comedic take on Fahrenheit 451, it is secretly alot smarter then I thought on a rewatch.

    Gray RookGray RookIl y a mois
  • "Showgirls is a bad movie the first time you watch it, and the second, and the third..."

    TQ ZamaTQ ZamaIl y a mois
  • Agree

    Leonel BerreondoLeonel BerreondoIl y a mois
  • Yes! So glad to see other people appreciating his work for what it is!

    Julian WallaceJulian WallaceIl y a mois
  • 15:06 - blur malfunction

    Brian GreenBrian GreenIl y a mois
  • Can you please do a deep or dumb on Futurama?

    jformaldehydemjformaldehydemIl y a mois
  • Silly of you to assume it has to be only one or the other.

    NeenNeenIl y a mois
  • Verhoeven still has a long way to go, when you can watch an innocent guy getting blow to pieces by bullets, but can't show a pair of boobs.

    PykePykeIl y a mois
  • What's with the Cage faces?

    Aidan JowettAidan JowettIl y a mois
  • I was today years old when I found out Verhoeven did all those movies.

    100PercentCori100PercentCoriIl y a mois
  • Did anyone else see the subtle nod to Nazi officers fleeing to Argentina in Starship Troopers? All the main characters are Aryan Argentinians. Although possibly coincidental, and perhaps an unimportant detail, I see this link as deliberate. Perhaps that, like cockroaches, fascism is impossible to stomp out entirely and will migrate and repopulate elsewhere.

    Brock KomonBrock KomonIl y a mois
  • I can’t believe Elle wasn’t even mentioned :-/

    Joaquin ShellenbergerJoaquin ShellenbergerIl y a mois
  • Verhoeven should write a book on filmmaking titled: "How to make movies roasting that culture while still giving them what they want. And, off course, not being understood by the critics". I'd buy it!!! Thanx, guys, a truly great cherry on top on the Verhoeven series!!!

    PD ZombiePD ZombieIl y a mois
  • He’s a really artistic filmmaker and art is subjective. I think it’s actually a mark of his talent that people react so intensely, positively or negatively, towards his work.

    Collin MillerCollin MillerIl y a mois
  • 15:07 was bound to happen

    Owlver ZhredderOwlver ZhredderIl y a mois
  • A little nitpick as a Dutch person, you have to pronounce his name as Ver-who-ven (oe = who, like the sound of an owl). Great video though

    wrappatsjipparappawrappatsjipparappaIl y a mois
  • Jared: “Pseudo-fascist” Neil Patrick Harris: *walks out in a full SS uniform”

    Robert VRobert VIl y a mois
  • Screen Junkies recently did a few videos on Starship Troopers that were really good. It really pointed out the satire and were just super good videos to learn more (unintentional pun probably from my subconscious).

    crazylikeafox11crazylikeafox11Il y a mois
  • Verhoeven is arty and a Master of Film Direction !!!

    David KoatlDavid KoatlIl y a mois
  • Robert Heinlein wrote Starship Troopers decades before the movie. Check him out.

    Cody WirthCody WirthIl y a mois
  • 3:10 Lol, Star Wars had two of those things tops. It's beyond overrated bc ppl still can't tell the difference between good stories and cinematography, special effects, production value, or really anything that let's studios throw money at the wall to sell tickets.

    Nathan LevesqueNathan LevesqueIl y a mois
  • Total Recall was great, Starship Troopers was a failed attempt at satire.

    Jack XiaoJack XiaoIl y a mois
  • Man, this is hard to watch. While I'll agree his work isnt dump, I wont say it's that smart and is often misinterpreted, even from the bloody director himself. Starship troopers is not about a fascist state. Just like how the book wasnt, but even their warped view on the book didnt make the federation seem fascist except out of surface details. The psi ops guys wearing snazzy ss uniforms and the propaganda segments are straight up nazi in nature, but nothing else about the movie is. From the father being a non citizen but extremely wealthy, and military participation not even required to live comfortably in their society. And the biggest point is that THE BUGGS ATTACKED 1ST. We see some mormons settle in bug territory, with no shown evidence of agression and the bugs slaughtered them all (and the federation didnt want the colonists to even settle there in the 1st place). And then the bugs nuked Buena Aires . That is massive amounts of agression shown to the human race and the humans attack back, knowing that the bugs were not gonna let them live peacefully. The bugs were an evil hivemind hostile to anything not their species. So fuck the bugs, the federation did nothing wrong (and if they did, I would love to hear what type of "humans evil" narrative you spin).

    Jarom SwensonJarom SwensonIl y a mois
    • @peter&mj123 l any nation who runs out of manpower during a war will recruit the younger generation. Such is the consequence of a continued war with heavy casualties. Not a particularly nazi trait. But as far as the news goes, this is the most interesting aspect. Do we suspect the nation that allows anyone not a citizen immense freedoms to be lying to the audience, or do we suspect that the director (who wants to have a message about nazis) to make it seem like we are rooting for nazis. The original book was not about nazis or fascism, but a fight against communism (with the bugs being the communists). The original work was about the fear of letting your guard down before the red menace, while the director twisted that as a warning against what he perceived as growing fascism. He made a message about manipulation of the facts by a regime, by manipulating the actual message of a book. In this case the director is guilty of doing what he warns us of doing. So I reject the notion that this is a movie about fascists, as I see it what it is. A fun action flick barely based off a book (that the director barely read). And when I see a film showing the bugs to be horific monsters that are slave to a hive mind. brainbugs that have feelings, but not the surbodinants. Innocent humans killed in the millions, but mindless combat drones killed as well. Maybe it's the fact that I'm a human, but if the bug monsters kill my kind, then I dont care much for their side of the conflict. Maybe if they were more human like, then I can find a reason to care for them. As far as the movie tells, the inhuman bugs killed innocent humans, and the humans killed them back.

      Jarom SwensonJarom SwensonIl y a mois
    • Jarom Swenson There is no real explanation or proof the bugs attacked first. The federation news only shows the bugs attacks out of context and it is just hearsay. They literally showed a censored cow being killed by a bug but they don’t censore the dead bodies of the Mormons (which they call extremists). They are playing with people’s emotions and brainwashing people that the Bugs totally bad and federation totally good and can’t ask no questions about it. Plus the Federation allows public lashings, televised executions, and permitted child soldiers.

      peter&mj123 lpeter&mj123 lIl y a mois
  • His movies still hold up. The remakes without the messages are crap. He is the man

    CJ MeikoCJ MeikoIl y a mois
  • Amazing breakdown!

    whutch1whutch1Il y a mois
  • He is a genius! Showgirls is a work of art- fight me

    Jacob LomaxJacob LomaxIl y a mois
  • I really would like to know what is your take on Neon Demon because there are some parallels with Show girls.

    FreakyFeline88FreakyFeline88Il y a mois
  • There's something about Showgirls that always seemed obvious to me. The thick layer of phoniness that covers all of Nomi's story. her dialogue, the situations she finds herself in, everything seems off and fake, like out of a bad novel. Her arrival in Vegas is like Dorothy arriving in Oz, a strange place full of fantastic and unnatural things. She even pronounces Versace wrong, like it's a cheap knockoff of a luxury brand. Elizabeth Berkley's acting seemed very forced and over the top, from the dance scenes to the sex scene in the pool, and I think it was done on purpose. The only real parts of the movie are the scenes with Gina Gershon's character, the only one who figured out the reality of the place she lived in, and towards the end, when Nomi spits on Zack's face and gets out of Las Vegas. She took her over acting down a notch, like she was leaving the phony valley. My two cents on this very, very misunderstood film.

    ThinneganThinneganIl y a mois
  • Verhoeven is one of my favorite directors.

    ali halit dikerali halit dikerIl y a mois
  • Two words: Three. Boobs. (Oh Hi Mark.)

    Calamari ChrisCalamari ChrisIl y a mois
  • Will you guys please do an episode about Twin Peaks? We already know you're fans, let the people hear what you have to say!

    Joseph AberantJoseph AberantIl y a mois
  • Wise Crack + Verhoven + Weed = Anxiety

    Mike AndersonMike AndersonIl y a mois
  • American critics got Starship Troopers wrong, but Europeans who saw it understood it for exactly what it is.

    t kt kIl y a mois
  • Missed a boob. My eternally adolescent eyes see all.

    Joseph ManninoJoseph ManninoIl y a mois
  • Thank you for changing the title! Lol. I love Starship Troopers, but new so little about the director. Now I want to rewatch Showgirls with a different mindset.

    Lexi LoweLexi LoweIl y a mois
  • gotta love we can get away with over the top gore but not sex.

    WeirdZoRsWeirdZoRsIl y a 2 mois
  • Starship Troopers is just Verhoeven doing the finger to the hollywood blockbusterd.

    PyriakPyriakIl y a 2 mois
  • 3:05 Wow, that gotta be the dumbest take from supposedly professional critic that I ever read. Comparing Starship Troopers to Star Wars and calling the latter "more deep" is just hilarious in retrospect considering Lucas himself said they were movies for young boys(And to sell toys, don't forget).

    Sergei TcvetkovSergei TcvetkovIl y a 2 mois
  • I can't believe I watched all of those before I was 13. Man, when he shot the girl's head off in Starship Troopers, I almost shat my pants...

    ShakuMascaradeShakuMascaradeIl y a 2 mois
  • His prediction on Detroit’s mess is earth shaking, but nothing will stop the prophecy from being realized.

    Onyx LeeOnyx LeeIl y a 2 mois
  • Verhoeven is the best of both worlds both dump and deep.

    Jackth23 MellowJackth23 MellowIl y a 2 mois
  • Of course it's pretty deep, this movies has some of the best satirical looks on America as a whole.

    Croz RavenCroz RavenIl y a 2 mois
  • Get a hair cut already!!

    Squanchy c_137Squanchy c_137Il y a 2 mois
  • Ever notice "The Four Feathers" and "Starship Troopers" are very similar?

    octagonproplexoctagonproplexIl y a 2 mois
  • Satire is Verhoeven's crutch for being educated but totally vapid and unwise. He can indulge his vulgar sensibilities as long as he excuses it as meta elitist caricaturing. Mostly entertaining though not exactly engrosssing. We are however now living in a real life amalgum of Robocop and Demolition Man - except without any of the cool stuff. Darren Aronofsky should remake Showgirls and win best picture with it, lol.

    octagonproplexoctagonproplexIl y a 2 mois
  • I feel like I'm seeing Star Ship Troopers on a lot of channels lately...and I love it.

    DonnyYasuDonnyYasuIl y a 2 mois
  • I love Paul verhoeven and I'm really enjoying films like RoboCop 87, Total recall, basic instinct, showgirls and starship troopers. Basic instinct and Showgirls were one of the sexiest movies I've ever watch. I love those movies nowadays. 90s style way.

    BlastedQuinnBlastedQuinnIl y a 2 mois
  • DEEP

    zaczanezaczaneIl y a 2 mois
  • How the original Total Recall is deeper than the remake is a testament to the desensitised millennials desire for style over substance.

    kevin perrykevin perryIl y a 2 mois
  • You make me wish I had 3 hands. Would you like to know more? I'd buy that for a dollar.

    Skynet1Skynet1Il y a 2 mois
  • i think i could be deep if any of his works were actually good. but they're all just schlock, sometimes fun, mostly cringey.

    taitertaiterIl y a 2 mois
    • What would be a deep movie then?

      Leo BLeo BIl y a 24 jours
  • It's somehow satisfying to know Verhoeven is making fun of the people who enjoy his movies, but are too dense to realize they're the butt of the joke. I'm not saying all fans of his movies are like this, but those who are, are definitely not the minority.

    Manuel MarinManuel MarinIl y a 2 mois
  • I kind of always assumed that he was just fitting the 80's style of films of large amounts of destruction and violence.

    hello987bhello987bIl y a 2 mois
  • heH

    Johan LiebertJohan LiebertIl y a 2 mois
  • My only criticism is you didn’t use the scene in Robocop where he smashes into the toxic waste and then gets splattered by the car. That would have made the ending perfect.

    Jeremy NeasJeremy NeasIl y a 2 mois
  • Just as South Park, the work is entertaining on many different levels. It's wack humor, but deeper down it's political commentary. I remember being young and watching "Troopers" and finding it entertaining, but I never really analyzed what I was watching on any deeper level. Now that I'm older and rewatched it I suddenly realized the movies actual message and therefore it took on a whole other meaning.

    F4tsugF4tsugIl y a 2 mois
  • I get why the low fi videos from home, what I don't get is why no-one is brushing their hair before getting on camera these days... the pandemic extended to hairbrushes? And it's not just you...

    Metal MonkeyMetal MonkeyIl y a 2 mois
  • Do a deep or dumn on shocktreament and Rocky horror

    SNB Sixteen6starsSNB Sixteen6starsIl y a 2 mois
  • What happened to thug notes?

    coolkidcoolkidIl y a 2 mois
  • The federation did nothing wrong! Bugs? I say kill em all!

    JohnJohnIl y a 2 mois
  • "[They] yearn for the excitement only violence can provide." -Jared "There was a hunger in my stomach only hands could satisfy." -Carl the Llama

    Archangel MykalArchangel MykalIl y a 2 mois
  • pls get rid of the highlighter sounds it's so discordant thanks love you guys first time commenter

    Phillip GeogheganPhillip GeogheganIl y a 2 mois
  • Answer a fool according to his folly, or he will be wise in his own eyes. Do not answer a fool according to his folly, or you will be like him yourself. It seems Verhoven accepted Solomon's words as a challenge - and succeeded.

    Troy CarrTroy CarrIl y a 2 mois
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