COMEDY NEWS: Is It Deep or Dumb?

22 mai 2020
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Is Comedy News a hilarious way to learn your facts, or merely a cathartic distraction with decent punch lines?
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John Oliver, Trevor Noah, Sam Bee. News delivered with a healthy side of comedy has never been bigger. But is there something smart going on when you listen to Jon Oliver roast Dr. Phil? Let's find out in this Wisecrack Edition on Comedy News: Deep or Dumb?

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Commentaires
  • "Comedy" news do overeditorializing, mainstream news do bias, fox "news", AlJazeera, infowars, the likes do overeditorializing AND bias. The crux lies in finding the fact, and make internal adjustment for bias and overeditorializing

    Dimas AkbarDimas AkbarIl y a heure
  • the only comedy political show i enjoyed was hasan minhaj’s but it got cancelled :(

    Alexandra VegaAlexandra VegaIl y a 15 heures
  • What about weekend update on SNL which started in 1975?

    Gus LottGus LottIl y a 3 jours
  • I always felt like its quite dumb and enjoyable as the formula lends itself to making fun of something dumb and unimportant for good fun, however it doesn't stop them from point out the very true and holes in our political system and politicians integrity because that is always somewhat funny like i genuinely can't believe the flip flop or blatant denials

    Gus MalGus MalIl y a 3 jours
  • What did The Heritage Foundation offer you to introduce this strategy? Ever the desperate party.

    omegapointilomegapointilIl y a 4 jours
  • It's hard to know in this day and age whether shows like Samantha Bee and Trevor Noah really are "claptur" though, considering how easy the current President and administration (including most of the upper-level GOP leaders) are making it to make jokes at their expense. Everything that they have done over the last few years has left any wrong-doing by the Democrats in the dust. Add to this that Trevor Noah does speak more race relations and racism, and Samantha Bee concentrates more on womens issues - both topics that the GOP has of recent years decidedly stomped all over, and it looks more like they are being "partisan". If we get a Democratic administration after the next election, we'll see if they truly are partisan and more prone to "claptur" or whether they are more like Jon Stewart's form of "shoot at all parties" humour.

    Felis DeeFelis DeeIl y a 12 jours
  • Definitely dumb ! If you want to see news go and watch the actual news

    Leap LuyLeap LuyIl y a 16 jours
  • 1:06 I see Vanoss's dragon from vanoss gaming.

    司此雷司此雷Il y a 16 jours
  • I’ve always been impressed with how open minded the people on this channel approach conversations. I find myself agreeing with him here

    Logan ShillingtonLogan ShillingtonIl y a 20 jours
  • They are trying to get people’s attention towards some serious social topics in funny way and they are comedians you dumdum🤷‍♂️🤫😇

    M JM JIl y a 21 jour
  • Ah yes, once again America owing something to British culture and TV talent. XD

    Alex BaxterAlex BaxterIl y a 25 jours
  • If Comedy News shows have taught me anything, it's that liberals really like foreigners telling them why their country sucks (John Oliver, Trevor Noah, James Corden, Hassan Minaj)

    Bojack HorsemanBojack HorsemanIl y a mois
  • While I think this is engaging and interesting. It ironically suffers from a similar flaw as it is critiquing. You are using a single (biased to a single theory) resource to create your entire perspective. Not good I am afraid, and just as flimsy.

    jvesquejvesqueIl y a mois
  • John Oliver changed my life ❤️

    Jessica CurtisJessica CurtisIl y a mois
  • I think Last Week Tonight is best when it brings up topics no one else talks about, not shoving its own politics in your face

    ralph pimpersonralph pimpersonIl y a mois
  • I read the title, saw the thumbnail, and thought "oooo no, this silly boy is NOT about to equate John Oliver to Samantha Bee. Imma throw a goddamn TANTRUM in the comment section" Then I took a breath, watched the video and I'm glad I did so. Well done, you guys

    Rafael MacedoRafael MacedoIl y a mois
  • Its just clowns acting holier than thou...

    Mohit KumarMohit KumarIl y a mois
  • Patriot act was cancelled on Netflix recently, what a loss, honestly.

    TheTadpoleTheTadpoleIl y a mois
  • it's dumb, it's so fucking dumb - what the 'left' need to realise is that even in satire you are entrenching the messages you're trying to trivialise - it just makes people buy into the idea of fake news and pretentious out of touch middle income yuppies looking down at them - also, critically, it's never even funny so there is no point at all

    Eric DravenEric DravenIl y a mois
  • I love all the “I used to love John Oliver until he started talking about Trump”. Dude that guy is hard not to talk about. He does one ridiculous thing after the other. And people are not required to not cover it just to show they’re not “biased”. There were certainly less coverage like this about Obama but that’s because that guy wasn’t a moron. He was a typical politician who knew how to silence reporters using his power and the “law” rather than tweeting at them and mocking a disabled one. He kissed the babies, waved at the crowd and got the hell out of there while making Fox News looking like idiots cause one of the worst things they could pin on him was his fucking tan suits.

    Joy Augustina PetinrinJoy Augustina PetinrinIl y a mois
  • For a while now I've been getting annoyed with these type of news shows as they often pretend to give objective information but really just ride on mainstream thought, although other times it truly is hilarious. And it's exactely the distinction between laughter and clappter! Although I believe John Oliver does a lot of clappter comedy as well, just take a look at his Trump videos, it doesnt really challenge any ideas (that is if you're a democrat just like everyone else watching that show...)

    EmmaEmmaIl y a mois
  • Comedy news makes you think about the news, something a news show does not. New shows just feed you news. And often it's not the most important news items that are on the menu.

    Henri RoggemanHenri RoggemanIl y a mois
  • Na cause then then just hide behind the “oh it’s just comedy” when they commit journalistic malpractice...

    Dr UziDr UziIl y a mois
  • Deep or Dumb: Is it Deep or Dumb?

    Juan HuertaJuan HuertaIl y a mois
  • Too bad "Patriot Act" has already been cancelled… :-//

    Nicla BerettaNicla BerettaIl y a mois
  • This analysis was better than I expected.

    bfurl69bfurl69Il y a mois
  • I look at a variety of different sources, both serious and comedic and look for common threads and thoughts among them to figure out what the truth is. Most every source has a bias because the Fairness Doctrine is a bygone memory. It really boils down to who is presenting it and what their goals are. Trevor Noah for example, I've learned a lot about black and POC issues, especially through his guests. He asks good, hard, and deep questions. He does get very clapter about the GOP, but then again, it's not really clapter if the GOP actually acts like clowns. Which they do. A LOT. RIP boats of Lake Travis. John Oliver is really good for deep dives into topics that journalists often don't really have the time to go into. Never saw Minaj's show. Sam Bee is also good for that, but she is a lot of clapter...so they give me jumping off points to go investigate things more. Bill Maher's basically become the "Get off my lawn, you young whippersnappers!" bitchy old fart. Which is sad, because he used to be funny and insightful. His guests are far more interesting than Maher is, but I had to quit watching all together because Maher doesn't shut up long enough to let them finish a sentence, so screw it. His show would be SO much better if he wasn't in it. I don't bother with Rachel Maddow or MSNBC for their insufferable milking of the most tiny of meaningless details. Long story short, just listen to a variety of sources from all sides if you're looking for the news with the awareness that bias is in everything.

    Widow KeeperWidow KeeperIl y a mois
  • Wow, an entire talk-derived industry cannot be binarily categorised. Who knew?

    Frank NilFrank NilIl y a mois
  • Quick thing: John Oliver created the serious, investigative journalism platform before Hasan Minhaj.

    Ben MerzoukBen MerzoukIl y a mois
  • Spoiler: dumb

    Will AdenWill AdenIl y a mois
  • Because comedians are still human beings actively living in society. Comedians have always talked about the news, this is just them engaging it with more detail. Anyone with a platfotm should focus less on making pointless videos and try to be more engaged with current society. Americans need to be ceaselessly entertained but annoyed by real life events is a problem and these comedians are trying to bridge the gap.

    I'm over 2020 🥴I'm over 2020 🥴Il y a mois
  • Comedy by someone with shared values makes it easier to follow heavier topics. It's like having a nerdy friend who has done all the reading ahead of you and telling you about the most interesting stories. You can choose to research further from that point.

    ecoMama AdminecoMama AdminIl y a mois
  • Comedy helps put the news in context. Pure news is mostly sounds like political and financial jargon.

    ECL28EECL28EIl y a mois
  • My problem is that these shows have no semblance of being unbiased. I found Jon Stewart calling CNN overly partisan pretty rich. So many people get their news from these that I think they are a real contributor to increasing polarization.

    Jack BarbeyJack BarbeyIl y a mois
  • False dichotomy.

    kiwispam84kiwispam84Il y a mois
  • Good video, and a lil late to the party, but I gotta say. I sorta feel like a lot of the growth of 'clappter' as I think you were calling it in our modern batch of comedy news shows, can be directly tracked along with the rise of the alt-right and trumpism. For a long time Colbert and the Johns could easily take a swing at the left every once in a while, why not? There are idiots on both sides, bush is stupid but shit the dems aint saints... The stakes were lower, the fuck ups more equivalent. The last four years or so? Can't we just like, dunk on some idiot republicans for five minutes and get some cheap and easy laughs? The world is shit, the president is a fucking dumpster fire, nothing about this is funny... Yeah, I'd pad my show out with some cheap and easy jabs at the right too, rather than trying to even handedly slap both sides... I mean, I get it, its not as good of comedy, but fuck off? Do you really want John Oliver to do a take down of Biden's background right now just to be level handed? Should Stewart use his microphone to call out bernie for his history of pseudo-science based bullshit? No, now is not the fucking time sir.

    Reid WallaceReid WallaceIl y a mois
  • Yeah, trump bad but I'm tired of hearing it

    OTM Trading GroupOTM Trading GroupIl y a mois
  • I love wisecrack because they summerize books I want to read... but im to lazy to do it hahaha

    4tydev4tydevIl y a mois
  • I'm surprised to find nothing really mentioned here or much of anywhere on the patterns of political bias that are evident in these shows (and by extension, the media conglomerates which dictate their content), where they lean either left or right. If one were to analyze the nature of the content of any of these given shows, it becomes pretty noticeable that much of what they're delivering favors one side or the other, which you'd quickly deduce when observing the content itself and then finding the match toward their preferred political sway. When I searched for the source (ie. ownership) of the media companies, I found the sources had political leans consistent with the show I was researching. What a coincidence (not a coincidence).

    totallypreposteroustotallypreposterousIl y a mois
  • Great video! As much as I love Samantha Bee I struggled with a full frontal before deciding that it’s tone and delivery produces results which contradict those results it claims to seek. Her heart is in the right place, but her head is not (in my opinion it's the same thing for the Late Show with Colbert). I remember the last episode I watched was a while ago but it went something like this: Sam was criticizing the author of an article in Harper’s magazine that I actually had read and she was basically claiming women on Twitter were right to be upset with this author for essentially publishing a Hollywood “black list” of men who have a history of problematic, if not illegal, behavior. The thing is this author never published that list nor did she even so much as suggest she might, even better the article was about how twitter damages feminism by encouraging a sort of mob mentality of guilty until proven innocent. In her rush to congratulate herself and her audience for being morally superior she was indulging in the very behavior the article was criticizing, and I found It was all too much.

    WelfareChristWelfareChristIl y a mois
  • Saturday Night Live was doing satirical news in the 1970s, and HBO had a show called Not Necessarily the News that ran all through the 1980s and even a bit into the 90s. Both of these predate the British shows....

    Rogue1stclassRogue1stclassIl y a mois
  • Trevor Noah is so unfunny it’s actually impressive

    Jesus SmithJesus SmithIl y a mois
  • Yo John Stewart used to be very good looking

    Cat RossCat RossIl y a mois
  • You missed the best of the best. Cody's Showdy

    RyanRyanIl y a mois
  • stop watching news. your life will be fun.

    ajay mondkarajay mondkarIl y a mois
  • Hasan Minhaj’s Patriot Act stuck out to me even though that comedic news space was already well saturated. I loved his perspective and I loved to see someone who looks like me have a National stage. His shows covered topics that I hadn’t seen other similar ones cover, be well researched, and have a perspective that resonates with me (both in general, and as an Indian-American). He always made sure to ground everything in reality. So I don’t think it’s neither deep nor dumb. It is what it is.

    Sricharan YadaliSricharan YadaliIl y a mois
  • To be fair they're more accurate than CNN 90% of the time.

    IanIanIl y a mois
  • I'm sorry I can't take you seriously after that dragon city promo

    Kenny the Jet SmithKenny the Jet SmithIl y a mois
  • One thing I like is that comedy news doesn't pretend to be fair and balanced. That's the issue with a lot of the main news is that you can have a story about "is it okay to kick puppies" and 99% of people would say NO, but on TV the News presents it as a 1/1 2/1 or even 3/1 ratio because any time they have a panel one person has to be the dissenting opinion. Comedy news says fuck that shit doesn't kick puppies we're going to dedicate the next 10 mins to mocking the 1%.

    Matthew MurrayMatthew MurrayIl y a mois
  • Yeah I pretty much agree I know for fact I enjoy Patriot Act , Last Night Show with Jhon Oliver, Jonathan Pie but hate Trevor and pretty much all else.

    Phanitejaswi kolliPhanitejaswi kolliIl y a mois
  • As a South african who loves Trevor Noah... i'll have to agree with you. Finally! Someone who says it in a respectful way, i honestly don't know why Trev agreed to do that show. When he doesn't know sh*t about US or politics. Now in his mind he thought the left was all good so he rooted for it. He seems more focused on claps. Its always Us VS them. 🤦🏾‍♂️

    Scott MachaserScott MachaserIl y a mois
  • Deep if done right like Jon Stewart dumb if not with poor research like those three bozos in your icon

    PhlegethonPhlegethonIl y a mois
  • Thought-provoking take as always, Wisecrack.

    Gregg EvermanGregg EvermanIl y a mois
  • trevor noah and john oliver are both trash

    DieForDethklok11DieForDethklok11Il y a mois
  • Never missed a ep of Patriot act and last week tonight.

    Junaid HussainJunaid HussainIl y a mois
  • And now, there is no more patriot act. I used to love the Jon stewart’s monologues and bits with the correspondents. Trevor Noah is amazing in an interview or a serious moment.

    Jo ZelleJo ZelleIl y a mois
  • In Australia, and also in the UK, we're really accustomed to comedians at least commenting on the news. We're turned it into animation, puppet shows, sketch shows, sitcoms, game shows, segments that run as part of a broader news programme (look up Clarke and Dawe sometime).

    Sappho CullodenSappho CullodenIl y a mois
  • I like comedian news. Its neither deep nor dumb to me though.

    Riri PariRiri PariIl y a mois
  • Watching this excellent vid, had me ponder another FRworld channel, "Today I found out." Specifically the vid about Court Jesters. Jester were able to make fun of the King. They could be killed for upsetting the King. They were able speak to kings with more leeway then many people in Court, to the point that Jesters were sometimes the bearer of bad news. When Jesters started performing @ theaters, have they started the path of comedians of modern day? Cancelling a comedian is the same as killing a court jester? Do people understand the dangerous power of cancel culture? A power that was only given to a king is now in the hand of people. Uncle Ben was a wise man. RIP Uncle Ben.

    D3ck3rCainD3ck3rCainIl y a mois
  • I love comedy news- it is my primary source of information since I don't have any patience to read an non-summarized article or watch actual news through their biased lens, but I do have a problem when comedy news takes their bias too far. It's one thing to make a joke based on current events, it's another to twist what happened into distorted extremes just to get a joke out of it. It too easily leads to brainwashing the masses into even more polar extremes since they can't separate the punchline from the story.

    Judy MilordJudy MilordIl y a mois
  • This dissection often seemed to be more about whether given shows are funny or not. Though I agree that shows like Trevor Noah's and Stephen Colbert's often feel like pandering to the audience's preconceived convictions as opposed to challenging the status quo. I think to really go into this topic you have to hold comedy news shows up alongside actual news media. The latter is unreliable and has been for a long time. Charlie Brooker does some excellent analyses of the issues plaguing them. Take CNN and Fox. Both are generally peddlers of sensationalist propaganda for their own side. Noah and Colbert, even at their most fawning, are more balanced than they are as well as being more charismatic. Is it any wonder that more and more people turn to such shows for their news?

    DjangoDjangoIl y a mois
  • These days I find straight-up news so stressful that it’s hard to tune in for a long time. Whereas with comedy news I get some cathartic relief with my information.

    Alex BondAlex BondIl y a mois
  • “Is it deep or dumb “ by wisecrack , Is it deep or dumb ??

    JOHAN LIEBERTJOHAN LIEBERTIl y a mois
  • Trump made comedy news obsolete as it shows how easy it is to twist anything to an attack towards your ”enemy”. John Oliver and Stephen Colbert were great before I noticed how cherrypicked the information was.

    TheMarkusATTheMarkusATIl y a 2 mois
  • It is a mental Junkfood! A relife and strangely, a balanced look at the darker side of media these days

    The Harsh ReportThe Harsh ReportIl y a 2 mois
  • Who could tell the king that his brother is actually the farther of his son but the jester?

    Skeeball D'SlantedSkeeball D'SlantedIl y a 2 mois
  • I wish trevor noah was a comedian... that would make it so much less aggravating to watch the daily show nowadays

    John BellJohn BellIl y a 2 mois
  • Daily Show was created by Lizz Winstead, not a dude.

    Guignol FestGuignol FestIl y a 2 mois
  • I’m gonna say “dumb”. Written by liberals for liberals. I can barely watch them because they just reinforce their own viewpoints the whole time. And Trevor Noah seems to race bait a lot. I also avoid the stuff that’s written by and for conservatives as well. I’ll kinda dabble in both but just get fed up with how firmly they are set in their own camps.

    John TaylorJohn TaylorIl y a 2 mois
  • Great articulation of why I wanted John Oliver to take over the daily show, and how I feel about the comedy news show landscape right now. Completely agree and gained some insight. Glad that Trevor and the alumni got their shows, but they are mostly too one-sided compared to Stewart's daily show.

    Tr HackerTr HackerIl y a 2 mois
  • In New Zealand we have two main comedy news shows - 7 days and the Project, 7 Days is fine, even funny - its a panel of comedians making fun of current events. The point is though, everyone knows its just jokes - not reporting - and it shouldn't be taken seriously. The Project is an abomination - its a bunch of comedians *reporting* the news, and they constantly interject their own opinions as if it is part of the story itself. They are often misinformed, and support a clear political view - most stories they have talked about that I have had some knowledge of has been misrepresented. Its not satire by that point, its propaganda pretending to be satire.

    Sam PageSam PageIl y a 2 mois
  • John Oliver is who I watch and I believe he does inform and still makes me laugh. I think it's Deep.

    Adriana RiveraAdriana RiveraIl y a 2 mois
  • Bullshit. Comedy shows are only political bulling, they wouldn`t even work if they had no live audience who laughs by demand. It works by inducing sheep mentallity on low critical thinkers.

    Antonio FerreiraAntonio FerreiraIl y a 2 mois
  • "Comedy news" is extremely shallow. I give it a solid dumb.

    TinoTinoIl y a 2 mois
  • Comedy and satire news, challenges you to pick up the joke (and accept the truth), because when you agree that only a mature and thinking person is able to laugh at their own mistake, that is when you truly grew up. And that is intellectually challenging, but it also truly makes you grow up

    Alvin ChanAlvin ChanIl y a 2 mois
  • All downhill after Daily Show and Colbert Report went away. John Oliver is probably the best currently on but is still so biased that it really just feels like a Republican attack ad 30 minutes long funded by HBO. Knowing your audience and creating echo chambers is the 2020 thing to do I guess.

    musicwelikemangmusicwelikemangIl y a 2 mois
  • Ooh loads of hyper-left comedy "news" viewers gonna get upset in the comments

    anonymous opinionsanonymous opinionsIl y a 2 mois
  • Overall topic aside, if anyone takes Trevor Noah seriously or as a valid source of anything (news or even comedy)... Then you're definitely Not deep.

    anonymous opinionsanonymous opinionsIl y a 2 mois
  • All the downvoted cuz real people know Trevor Noah and John Oliver are a bunch of race baiting biased bitches.

    DRAGONAUT 88DRAGONAUT 88Il y a 2 mois
  • Can't stand them with their Orange man bad mentality

    ZetaZetaIl y a 2 mois
  • This would have hit harder if Michael had made fun of the mobile game that sponsored this video

    GaschowinGaschowinIl y a 2 mois
  • Deep! Definitively.

    florin2tubeflorin2tubeIl y a 2 mois
  • i miss Stewart(( and old Colbert (

    Dmytro PickyDmytro PickyIl y a 2 mois
  • You missed Cody in some more news.

    SURYA TEJA ADDANKISURYA TEJA ADDANKIIl y a 2 mois
  • Thank you for classifying Trevor Noah's Daily show as dumb. Cuz it is. He killed The Daily Show.

    April ThomasApril ThomasIl y a 2 mois
  • The point is to be funny. It's no different than wisecrack. I like news to be informative. sometimes you need things to be serious though. the world is in a sad state now and no one takes it seriously. Right now is the time to suspend certain policies that don't help anyone. but no one will do anything about it because money. It's a sad world.

    BlankBlankIl y a 2 mois
  • Jordan Klepper’s street interviews deserved some screen time here.

    J PJ PIl y a 2 mois
  • Hey wisecrack, is Netflix Dark deep or dumb? Even if you dont make a whole video bout it, a simple reply would be much appreciated.

    Tarequr RahmanTarequr RahmanIl y a 2 mois
  • Totally agree! I’ve stopped watching the daily show ages ago because like you’re talking about it moved away from being in a way non biased to focusing on one side and it lose my interest. Meanwhile I’ll watch John Oliver and Patriot act all the time! I love those shows because to me they seem like they analyze both sides more

    K-avocadoK-avocadoIl y a 2 mois
  • I started watching Jon Stewart when I was 14, I'm 25 now and he really helped formed my outlook on politics and the world. I'm glad that in the age when it's easy to be pulled any way, I had Jon. A good, smart, insightful man to lead me. His point was never left or right, it was about humanity

    KarolinaARMYKarolinaARMYIl y a 2 mois
  • I miss the days of Jon Stewart and The Colbert Report. Trevor Noah is the worst, Samantha Bee is a Hillary lib and a Bernie hater, and Colbert nowadays? Talk about a waste of comical talent. The only comedy news outlets I genuinely love are Last Week Tonight with Jon Oliver and The Onion (though The Onion is pure satire... satire that always seems to come true years later... I swear somebody at The Onion is a precog...)

    Jules BlackJules BlackIl y a 2 mois
  • I think we have to take into account that comedy news in the USA right now "report" from a country with a president that parodies himself every 2 seconds. It has to be hard to come up with jokes for everyone when the class fool just goes around stealing their jobs

    GatoVolado rGatoVolado rIl y a 2 mois
  • From what I've seen it's more informative than regular news yet still sorely lacking in terms of depth and objectivity. Precisely because it's comedic it can never allow itself to reach the full scope of it without getting boring again and precisely because it's supposed to be critical it can never be objective about anything because the moment you criticize anything you've already devoted your argument to an inherently partisan opinion.

    Lima ZuluLima ZuluIl y a 2 mois
  • As nutritional as a Big Mac, these shows are.

    Javier I. AcuñaJavier I. AcuñaIl y a 2 mois
  • John Oliver is really dumb.

    Suheti LeeSuheti LeeIl y a 2 mois
  • Listen, I have an unpopular opinion... The best comedy news show is the not so very late show with Elmo. Fight me

    KingPenguKingPenguIl y a 2 mois
  • In Colombia we had a TV show called "Zoociedad" (Zoociety) launched in the early 90s. Then it was revamped as "QUAC" and the rebellious witty of Jaime Garzón costed him his own life since he was assassinated by the Colombian paramilitaries. Both shows were an eye-opener for a shallow society which was unaware of what was happening behind the façade of distraction delivered by the mainstream media. So, my personal conclusion: it's hella smart and deep.

    NavyBlueVinylNavyBlueVinylIl y a 2 mois
  • I think it’s both deep and dumb. I loved the Daily Show when John Stewart was running it, but now with Trevor I feel like it’s just pandering to the left. I don’t a-line with either side and can’t stand watching news on the main channels.

    Kaos_TripKaos_TripIl y a 2 mois
    • On the other hand, I think Noah might be more impartial than Colbert. I remember when Trudeau, Boris Johnson and Macaron got together and mocked Trump behind his back and it was caught on camera, he was the only one who called them out on it for being bitchy and gossipy. Colbert laughed along with them but Trevor kind of got mad at them for that.

      AshcoolAshcoolIl y a 2 mois
  • YASSS! Validate the fact I’ve watched John Oliver close to nonstop for awhile

    Hannah ThompsonHannah ThompsonIl y a 2 mois
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